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Righ thing? Wrong Thing?
Honeybadg:
--- Quote from: deanp27 on April 01, 2009, 15:38:12 PM ---
you have JJ and you want to chase away ace rag?
in general principles, the bigger you bet the less likely you are to get called by hands you crush and more likely to only get called when beat.
make standard raises and from then on just trust your post flop play, usually you will have position if you are getting called from the blinds.
as an extreme example, if you don"t want callers when you raise then just open shove. Job done.
i really do think you should open the same whether you have JJ, AK, AA, KK, 56s, 22 or whatever - but i guess it depends on your style of play.
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I don"t want to chase away the Ace-rag per se ... I want rid of all the Ace, King and Queen hands that will make it tricky to play post flop.
rubertoe:
Let me Put you out of Your Misery Guys!!
Of Course I call - If he flopped a flush in BB good luck to him - i ain"t folding a set here - i am playing FTW!!!
The reason i raise to 3k here is because i want my raises consistent - all through the tourney i have raised 2.5-3x so i am definitely not starting to open to 5x!!! and like people have said - i want the action i have a premium PP!!!
Anyway - the Button is irrelevant here and plays no further part in the action!!
As i said - I call - BB flips up ah qc and rivers the flush.... but i am glad i got the money in as a 68% favourite and i am never folding a set here.
Honeybadg:
... fair play ...
Here is related question - what % would you need to be happy to call in this tournament situation.
Aside - if you raise to 6000 the villain is very likely to call anyway ...
Unlucky.
L
noble1:
--- Quote from: Honeybadg on April 01, 2009, 16:33:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: noble1 on April 01, 2009, 15:51:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Honeybadg on April 01, 2009, 15:32:47 PM ---
I don"t want to fold JJ having bet 6,000 but there are hands I want to chase away ... KQ and weak aces etc ...
You have the 4th stronger hand - so protect it.
The BB is active so what are you going to do when he re-raises you to 10k with KQ, or some Ace.
I don"t think he is going to re-raise to 18k with these hands.
I like raising a standard amount - but JJ and TT they are just so vulnerable (even with position) and hard to throw away.
You want him in the hand ... fair enough ... but it is dangerous ...
Once you are in the hand for 3000 ... tough not to call ... but I wouldn"t be surprised if he had a baby flush or something with two draws ... so you are not a massive favourite ... button is only going to call with a flush (or QQ - or 9T - hard to see QQ) ... so no extra value there.
I guess we will agree to differ on this one ...
L
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i can see your logic in thinking this but just try to expand your thoughts on this a wee bit...watch the replays of the poker million final table for instance and see how much they raise by... [open up a mtt and watch the better mtt online players and see there bet sizing]
The std and type of opponents you are up against are key here,if for some reason you find you are getting to many callers when you raise [be it they are loose or your own image is spewy] then raising more pre would be fine as long as you don"t raise to often and do it with crap...
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I think there is a difference in the way the Poker Million final table is played out and a $20k freeze-out ... I don"t think you can transpose the betting structure directly ... usually the players are deeper once you get to the Poker Million final table ... I have watched quite a few.
L
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is that what u think ?
$10 mtt 2008 100,000 gtd [now the 250,000 gtd on Sundays] 20,000 entrants - i"d suggest u watch this ;D all the way through...There are things to learn or even add to your own repertoire ......
not sure if it works for non-pxf subscribers but it is free to join for limited access [then log in and you can definitely watch]
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HH118395/4477_20080303_140746
the final table it self begins at hand 389 .....
duke3016:
Definite call for me (Maybe a bigger pre though - but thats me ;D) -- well thats me tagged -- see you in Cardiff
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