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PocketAmazing:

Hello All,

First of all I want to thank all players and organisers for an enjoyable game of poker this weekend (well the day I lasted anyway). I enjoyed the structure and the banter on the day, but one event left a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth (not the scotch pies at the first break).

For those that we"re on table 2 after the first break you will know what I"m talking about but for those that weren"t I"ll fill you in.

I'm sitting on about 12k just above the average finally get my signature hand  :3c: :3d: sweet!! (pocket invincible, long story)

The long and short of it is I get down to the river and I've hit trips on the flop I got 4125 left, I push all in. The player 2 too my left calls throwing in a 5k chip and shows 2 pair. Win for me, opponent gets his change.

In stacking my chips and getting a count of what I have the next hand has started I realise that I only have about 19k  ??? ???

While I'm figuring this out the dealer has missed out the BB or mucked the hand before the player had a chance to play something like that so the floor manager is called over.

After this is sorted out I bring to the attention of the dealer and the manager that I feel there has been a miss count possibly in the change given back at which I got a blunt "last hand nothing can be done about it" my opponent had been given 8025 change instead of 825 the player in question agrees with what I'm saying but has said the floor manager has said to play on and so I lose out on 7.2k in chips

Where is the fault here? Clearly the dealer but given the situation I would in all honesty declare I had too much change given back maybe I'm too honest but would expect others to do the same.

Thoughts??
Pocket Amazing

WASP:
I don"t know what can be done here if it was me I would have chucked you the chips but we had similar problems on table 9 which is a shame because the Maybury is one of my favourite casino"s and the staff are usually spot on.

From the first hand to my last our dealer was constantly dealing wrong, giving out incorrect change, taking the wrong money, dealing flops before the betting had finished, missing players out etc etc etc.  The TD knew he was bad as he kept coming over and shouting at him.  We also had no rotation of dealers which is bad practice in any casino to avoid collusion etc.  So even after the dinner break we had the same dealer and he cost one guy a lot of money and nearly cost me a lot when he gave me 250 change instead of 1500.

It does spoil the occasion when your dealer is dire and the TD doesn"t take control, we tried to make light of it on our table but after 6 hours it was getting tedious.

DrMarbles:
This is exactly the sort of situation which should mark out APAT events as being different from other tournaments.

I am reticent to give my opinion of the other player without him giving his side of what happened - would be interested how he/other players at the table viewed this as initial thoughts are not good.

Glorious:
When I heard about this on Sunday afternoon I couldn"t really believe that the player acknowledged he had too many chips but didn"t sort it out - he would have known as soon as he was given his change - very disappointing, whether the TD says play on or not, it"s a simple one to sort between yourselves (and it"s also simple to find out who the player was).

FWIW, our dealer after the break (dealer was changed at this point - table 4) hadn"t dealt with antes before, but he was receptive to guys like Geo2Loose giving him help, and he dealt well with a particularly vocal gent who everyone would have heard.

JOKER_IRVINE:
hey mate yeah feel like honesty is the best policy but guess not in this case must have been clearly obvious to the player that after throwing in a 5K chip getting 8750 back would seem a little fishy ???

something happened at my table two people in the pot flop comes

Q,J,10 two are hearts player A leads out player B calls.

Turn brings a 3 no heart player A check raises player B and gets called

River a 9 no heart still both players check

player A states i was chasing the flush showing 8,2 hearts

Player B states i knew that showing Q,10 for two pair

player B starts to collect the chips just as i point out that player A still has a straight

player B starts shouting and swearing at me saying i have nothing to do with the hand. I politly reply i just thought the cards spoke for there selves the dealer then said i was right appologizing to player B for not noticing the straight. player B eventually surrenders the chips to player A but still continues to call me a F*****G  PRICK saying i was completely out of order. myslef thinking i hadn"t even done anything wrong appoligised for the sake of making things better at the table but he would not except continuing to mutter prick i say to the dealer that this is my first APAT and that i thought we were supposed to make this enjoyable for everyone ::) the dealer agreed and asked him to watch his language.
Dindnt think i did anything wrong  ??? besides that the event was enjoyable had a really good time and congrats to the winner  :D


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