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Paulie_D:

--- Quote from: MintTrav on September 03, 2009, 01:31:02 AM ---
I can"t see the conundrum. Apart from AQ, it"s difficult to name a hand that he might have called with that you"re not losing to.

--- End quote ---


This.

All this talk of floating him on the flop...other than a K and you still won"t know where you are.

Jon MW:
If he checks the turn for example I"d say you have a much better idea where you are.

(plus other variations which make floating a viable option)

deanp27:
so have can"t have A9, KQ or any other draw then? not sure on suits on board or in our hole cards etc

it is player dependant but our hand does have equity here, just because we miss we don"t have to fold, especially with position.

kinboshi:

--- Quote from: Paulie_D on September 03, 2009, 14:03:47 PM ---

--- Quote from: MintTrav on September 03, 2009, 01:31:02 AM ---
I can"t see the conundrum. Apart from AQ, it"s difficult to name a hand that he might have called with that you"re not losing to.

--- End quote ---


This.

All this talk of floating him on the flop...other than a K and you still won"t know where you are.

--- End quote ---


The floating isn"t necessarily to hit.  If he doesn"t bet the turn, then you can bet out and he"s going to struggle to play back unless he has a hand where he thinks he"s ahead.  That"s the beauty of position.

Paulie_D:
Flop is JT8...he"s led out on that flop and you have floated.

OK...let"s suppose the turn isn"t a Queen King.

Aren"t AKJT987 all scare cards for you?

Let"s suppose one of those falls and doesn"t make the flush.

He checks. Are you betting, if so how much and what are you hoping to represent?

Alternatively, if it"s a total brick (6 - 2) and he checks..same questions.

Finally, if it puts three to a flush out there, does this change your answers to the above?

Interesting discussion, I"ll be keen to see where it goes.

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