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daveyb147:
i believe linz is spot on,,,u must show both hole cards and the dealer should have insisted.

ck1888:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2agX80ZyE  

ck1888:
This is a hot topic on the forums the now with regards to showing the one card.  The EPT incident is on link above.

coprey:
It is my understanding that both cards need to be shown. If however a player shows one card which demonstrates the pot is won, then accidentally or purposely mucks the other card so that it is impossible to retrieve, who should be awarded the pot? The losing hand, the winning hand or is it split? In these situations I would hope common sense would prevail and the player get a warning by the dealer or TD that both cards must be shown, and that the pot stil l go to the winning hand.

AceOnTheRiver:
Those who say that both cards must be shown are right imho although coprey is very much the voice of reason and I agree with him - we had a simlar (although very light-hearted) situation at Aspers last night where the player showing the card which paired was told to show both:

"Do I have to?"
"Well, only if you want the chips"  :)

I think the key point is that we need a standardised set of rules covering all situations and available / displayed in all card rooms with Pub Poker leagues also signing up to these rules (if you play in a pool league, this is the situation - I accept poker is more complex).

Another example of this is "calling the clock". In the WSOP any player at the table can do it (reference Tiffany Michelle 2008 ME), In APAT only players in the hand can call it, but at the WCOAP DTD rules took precedent, i.e. any player at the table - I"m not saying that"s wrong, just pointing out the inconsitencies.

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