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APAT UK Team Championship - January 2010
Chipaccrual:
--- Quote from: Baldus New on November 02, 2009, 16:32:45 PM ---
Sorry about this, didn"t mean to start World War III, just wanted to see if it was possible to get more teams in to make it a real team event.
Not sure how many teams have already put themselves forward but I expect there will be more that miss out than those that get in.
Where"s Kerry Packer when you need him to start a rogue tourney!!!!!! ;) (Only joking APAT!!!!! ;D)
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As always, it"s a simple matter of demand for APAT events exceeding the available seats.
This is a fantastic event not only for everyone that gets to play in it, but also for APAT. It allows us to promote what APAT is about to a wider audience. The fact that the demand is so high for a tournament with exceptional value makes me think maybe we should be asking potential teams, "What can you offer to promote APAT within your own community to justify having a team ?"
I can see both sides of the discussion. It would be nice for everyone who would like to enter a team to be able to play, but also, if you reduce the numbers per team too much it can dilute the "team" feel about the tournament. I thought last year, ten per team was a good number, eight may be okay too, I think five is too few.
It"s good to get everyone"s views before the final list is drawn up and teams confirm.
karrde:
I know I extended the example to the limits of where it could realistically go... because I think it should be out there in its entirity for discussion, it can be debated down to a more agreeable level.
If you want any kind of objective criteria for entry, then previous performance has to be the major factor surely. There is no other objective criteria that is fair. At which point we discuss a cut off.
The only alternative is to have a random draw (and its a poor alternative imo)... and if that is the case though, then it should be announced as such asap, as any discussion is pointless. The event may or may not have the best teams in it and good luck to all lottery ticket holders!
Marty719:
--- Quote from: karrde on November 02, 2009, 16:45:34 PM ---
I know I extended the example to the limits of where it could realistically go... because I think it should be out there in its entirity for discussion, it can be debated down to a more agreeable level.
If you want any kind of objective criteria for entry, then previous performance has to be the major factor surely. There is no other objective criteria that is fair. At which point we discuss a cut off.
The only alternative is to have a random draw (and its a poor alternative imo)... and if that is the case though, then it should be announced as such asap, as any discussion is pointless. The event may or may not have the best teams in it and good luck to all lottery ticket holders!
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They r using previous performance as an criteria by inviting the defending champions. Depending on how many forums enter, I think a select few that APAT feel can contribute well/have a wide reach to potential new menbers as well as a solid base of current shud b chosen (ie the big forums), and then the rest shud go into a random draw. Unfort, people will b disapointed but as with many similar set-ups - random = fair!
Paulie_D:
--- Quote from: karrde on November 02, 2009, 16:45:34 PM ---
If you want any kind of objective criteria for entry, then previous performance has to be the major factor surely. There is no other objective criteria that is fair. At which point we discuss a cut off.
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Prior performance is OK if you get to take part the first time but then you are self-selecting next year to the detriment of teams who couldn"t get in.
Equally, if the whole team (i.e. the same players) don"t take part from one year to the next then prior performance is irrelevant.
The only prior performance that should matter is the outright winner. Even that distinction (if you take my repeating team item into consideration) is open to debate but I"ll let that go. Anything else is just a matter of degree.
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The only alternative is to have a random draw (and its a poor alternative imo)... and if that is the case though, then it should be announced as such asap, as any discussion is pointless. The event may or may not have the best teams in it and good luck to all lottery ticket holders!
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I"m fine with a random draw...it"s very objective.
suzanne:
The B&SWMU team HAVE stuck to the same team members as last year which is a bit frustrating for other members who would love to play in this but perfectly understandable as they want to defend their title.
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