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Jon MW:
So everyone is ruling out the possibility that he might be limping behind with AA/KK to induce a squeeze?

Marty719:

--- Quote from: Jon MW on October 30, 2009, 12:34:14 PM ---
So everyone is ruling out the possibility that he might be limping behind with AA/KK to induce a squeeze?

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so u fold bcos he has tht hand 0.005% of the time ? :)  Card removal + steamed up image ftw!

deanp27:

--- Quote from: Jon MW on October 30, 2009, 12:34:14 PM ---
So everyone is ruling out the possibility that he might be limping behind with AA/KK to induce a squeeze?

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not ruling it out but it becomes more unlikely. If it was initial limper i would be more worried.

also once you make a raise would aces then decide to insta-jam all in?

tonyj444:
Thanks for the reposnses everyone!  Sorry for the delay - here is what happened:

To start with, I agree with the statement from the majority of people here, that this is practically never AA or KK.  The limp with a limper in front of him added to the speed with which he shoved says it is much more likely to be a mid-small pair.  My initial thoughts were that his range is probably 55-JJ and not a lot else, and against this range I didn"t really want to call as it seemed a tad early for a race and I felt confident about my table.  However, after some more contemplation I started to factor in his possible tilty state and the speed with which he"d shoved.  After much umming and arring I decided his range was actually quite a bit wider than this, so made the call and he shows me AQ - happy days.

I was just curious to see how many people would make a lay-down in this spot, and if we take away the tilt-factor - should we still come to the same conclusion.  As I say my first thoughts were that I couldn"t possibly call for my life in this spot, simply because I don"t want to knowingly (i.e. with no FE) enter into a 50-50 situation for my life at this stage.  If he hadn"t had the issue with his hand being mucked earlier, I think I probably pass in this spot.  But I"m not sure.

WYoung83:
 Good, but standard call. I hate taking flips early on. But the Apat tourneys get pretty fast around level 6-7. And at this time you were not competetivly deep stacked at all, despite what other people may think.

If he did happen to have a middle pair,  then so be it. It gets to the coin flip time for most people unfortunatly, and i belive the antes had already kicked in also. So when it comes to flips....................Your dammed if you do, and dammed if you dont.

Interestingly enough, i belive if you had AQ or AJ then you should fold, he may actually have AK, and if you are the guy with the middle pair, then also fold because he could also have a higher pair (although thes situations are very unlikly given the line he has taken). But other things come into it, like Price beign laid etc, and your ability to grind away and steal blinds from any tight blind defenders.

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