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--- Quote from: deanp27 on November 17, 2009, 11:54:59 AM ---
problem is that A2 is not huge against any hand and can be a big "dog. if he has 35s you aren"t streets ahead.

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Thanks Dean. Sheer Apat class. love it. (didn"t know this-yh i shld but i iz fish, 35s ftw).

And...

Queue more waffle from Tops whilst he pokerz....

The actual hand in general is effectively a nothing situation which tbh is why left things vague. but can only be gd to discuss it (wld b nice to rerail topic in future tho). 20K in play, holding 25%, 500/1000. Up to now, I am nugget nit that villain cant flush for the life of him.


--- Quote from: deanp27 on November 17, 2009, 11:54:59 AM ---
its not speech play that"s important, trying using pokerstove to work out your equity against his range of jamming hands.

still depends what the blinds are though. I take the flip if blinds are high probably

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Equitywise my instincts are okayish... a "few donkey" mistakes now and then but pretty relentless at this. Wasn"t sure how much extra equity no ace in his range gives me at the time.

Discounted 77+, maybe wrong to do so but my instincts were telling me he would complete here w 77+ to induce a shove so I happy see a flop with xx and outplay with a non shove which fries his brain on certain boards. Anyway after discounting 77+I went into autopilot does he have a better ace... I speak.. I never speak during poker... hence "I am allowed to speak during poker.. wtf should i be looking for now" thread.

Its a complete nothing situation but as a life nit I feel i should pursue some form of discussion.  Even tho the specific situation is... do I have 2 cards... i"m all in. (but coming back from being a nugget to win is pretty satisfying!)

Again 22-66... GL to him. Ranges below... feel free to pwn them.. if my ranges are spewy pls change... i havent deliberately tried to rigg to my point about Ax for a 4% edge to come off as a douche and kill thread.. I am consciously interested in opinions here. pls adjust ranges as u feel fit. Wld be gd to get (stronger then me=90% apat) players opinions.

Range 1 without AKQJx -77+.
50.039% 66-22,A2s+,K7s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,87s,A2o+,K7o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T9o
49.962% A2s

Range 2 with AKQJx -77+.
44.588% 66-22,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T8s+,97s+,87s,A2o+,K2o+,Q2o+,J2o+,T9o
55.412% A2s

Range 1.1 without KQJx -77+, -Ax.
43.968% 66-22,K7s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,87s,K7o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T9o
56.032% A2s

Range 2.1 with KQJx -77+, Ax.
40.339% 66-22,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T8s+,97s+,87s,K2o+,Q2o+,J2o+,T9o
59.661% A2s


Orig topic is pretty torrential so might just save it for a rainy day.... wasnt expecting a masterclass in it. Just some form off insight from those well experienced at speech play... gaining info.. etc. (lol just stacked someone 400BB with A2s.. lmfao)

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