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Biggish early hand at Euro's - thoughts please?
George2Loose:
Have we shoved yet?
Dan, with your rep (ie solid) it makes this shove even easier.
I know we"re deep. I know it"s early but these APAT affairs tend to turn into shoots which is why I"ll play fairly aggro (cos everyone else has their chips locked up). It hasn"t paid off for me so far- maybe I should be more patient and embrace the shoot.
AMRN:
one thing we know for sure - however the hand played out, the td didn"t come on turn or river.... we would have heard it at the time!!
WYoung83:
This is the exact reason why i could never fold in this spot (what George2loose has said) Even though we start 200bbs deep. By about level 5 or so. If you look at the average chips, it is now around 50-60 BBs, which is no way to play creative or finness poker.
Suited connectors and set mining becomes too dangerous, because we are risking to much of our stack now to flop that hidden monster hand or monster draw.
I can tell you now that 99% of people will be putting their chips on the line later during day 1 and day 2 in much worse spots than 10 outs to the nuts with 2 cards to come, not to mention with the chance to doubble or maybe even tripple up.
"embrace the shoot" is a funny way of putting it, but it gets to nerve wrecking playing like a Harringbot in this structure and just waiting untill your "M" is 6, and then open shoving in worse spots.
I guess lately im giving away to much information on how i play, discussing hand problems like this. But i think getting chips all in for Dan right now rightly or wrongly, is how most would play it.
George2Loose:
--- Quote from: AMRN on November 30, 2009, 19:52:06 PM ---
one thing we know for sure - however the hand played out, the td didn"t come on turn or river.... we would have heard it at the time!!
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I"m guessing Dan and foggy folded
AMRN:
--- Quote from: WYoung83 on November 30, 2009, 20:19:19 PM ---
This is the exact reason why i could never fold in this spot (what George2loose has said) Even though we start 200bbs deep. By about level 5 or so. If you look at the average chips, it is now around 50-60 BBs, which is no way to play creative or finness poker.
Suited connectors and set mining becomes too dangerous, because we are risking to much of our stack now to flop that hidden monster hand or monster draw.
I can tell you now that 99% of people will be putting their chips on the line later during day 1 and day 2 in much worse spots than 10 outs to the nuts with 2 cards to come, not to mention with the chance to doubble or maybe even tripple up.
"embrace the shoot" is a funny way of putting it, but it gets to nerve wrecking playing like a Harringbot in this structure and just waiting untill your "M" is 6, and then open shoving in worse spots.
I guess lately im giving away to much information on how i play, discussing hand problems like this. But i think getting chips all in for Dan right now rightly or wrongly, is how most would play it.
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so, all that said, you would have called with the J8dd in the hand in the OP?
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