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Mikeyboy9361:
Having been roundly chastised for my play in the latter stages last week, I thought I would post a hand I was involved in last night and get your thoughts.

4K gteed, $20 freezeout, 300 Runners, top 30 paid, decent money for top 5, me 13/20, already got $54 locked up! CL 50k, average about 20K,  me 14k, Blinds 800/1600/100.

CL is on my table and has been extremely active raising probably 60% of all pots and bullying good style! I am in the SB having just re raised in the BB to take a decent pot uncontested from the guy who is now on the button.

So blinds 800/1600 with 100 ante, CL,  UG raises to 5200, folded round to the Button who shoves for his last 10K, I look down in the SB at Pocket tens.

What do you do?

deanp27:
i"d prolly jam it in

Eck:
Pretty ugly spot imo you will probably get CL involved as well so will need to run good but I think I am too short here to pass TT so I shove most times.

If i have more chips (nearer to 20 than 10 BB"s) I could probably find a fold would be expecting to bust tbh but need to take the chance I think.

Marty719:
Yea Im putting it in all day here.  8x w/ 18k already in the pot.  C/l clearly has a wide range, and button is putting it in w/ any pp, any Ax hand, and all paint combos.  Getting it in and putting myself in a gd spot to get a gd score if it works out.


--- Quote from: Eck on January 14, 2010, 09:44:23 AM ---

If i have more chips (nearer to 20 than 10 BB"s) I could probably find a fold would be expecting to bust tbh but need to take the chance I think.

--- End quote ---


If I have 20x, I still think Im re-shoving here to iso the button as we are ahead of his range.

shozboy1:
The button must know he"s getting called by the UTG raiser. You wouldn"t expect him to be shoving a very wide range here given this fact, but also, that he"s on the button and he could wait for another orbit to find a decent enough hand -basically I can"t see him shoving trash here. Your probably flipping at best with him. Additionally, I know UTG has been very active, but what"s his opening range been from this specific position? Has he been stealing alot from late position generally, and tighter UTG?

All in all its unlikely you"ll be ahead of both players, and you shoving less than 10BBs is not going to encourage the UTG raiser to fold and allow you to isolate the button - he will have compelling pot odds to call here and given how loose he is he"s even more likely to call. Against 2 players in this situation, I don"t fancy 1010 being the best hand at showdown.

Do we expect to get knocked out here more often then tripling up (near enough)? I think so, I"d move towards folding, but its close

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