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Latter Stages again!!
Eck:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on January 14, 2010, 10:32:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Eck on January 14, 2010, 09:44:23 AM ---
If i have more chips (nearer to 20 than 10 BB"s) I could probably find a fold would be expecting to bust tbh but need to take the chance I think.
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If I have 20x, I still think Im re-shoving here to iso the button as we are ahead of his range.
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Yeah prob agree with that tbh if CL has been pretty active.
Marty719:
--- Quote from: shozboy1 on January 14, 2010, 10:34:14 AM ---
The button must know he"s getting called by the UTG raiser. You wouldn"t expect him to be shoving a very wide range here given this fact, but also, that he"s on the button and he could wait for another orbit to find a decent enough hand -basically I can"t see him shoving trash here. Your probably flipping at best with him.
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With 6x, running antes, and an aggro table bully, I expect him to be 3-bet shoving 22-AA, A2+, any paint combo"s. Im pretty sure 10"s r ahead of his range.
noble1:
not a super spot mikey especially with everyone so shallow , i"d lean towards going for a triple up here , u havent got a stack to work with at the moment and it"ll only get worse.
The buttons range i cant see being wide myself [as u have not mentioned any reads on him] i"ll asume he has waited a little bit to long for a decent hand so i would put him on at least 88+,AJs+,KQs,AJo+ the BB going by what u said i put him on summat like 77+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QJo which means that it is gambling time for u.. :)
AMRN:
too much value here to avoid playing the fifth best starting hand
deanp27:
Ok i"ll try and break this down. In the absence of a HH i assume we are 6/7 handed with 20 left and that only money worth playing for is on the FT and probably in the top 3/4 spots.
You say UTG is a big CL and is liberal in opening (from any position i assume being short handed) - i don"t know how big his stack is. We have no real reads on button, other than he will have same feelings towards CL as you.
Options
Fold - we get to see what cards they are playing for curiosity purposes (pretty sure CL can"t fold) but we are left with a short stack with big CL two to our left, so very little FE and miles away from decent money - we will have to get lucky
Shove and CL folds (which is unlikely but i never rule anything out in these) - we are therefore in decent shape HU against a reasonable range, possibly flipping but there is a tonne of dead money in the pot from UTG and blinds. Therefore we are likely to be getting huge odds with 4k left over if we lose for hope value.
Shove and CL calls - as above but we are obviously 3 way and CL range is still quite wide. We have an 8k side pot vs CL range as an insurance policy if we don"t win the 3 way all-in coup.
i like playing for bigger money rather than scraping into the cash relying on picking up QQ+ when i have 3bbs. I think this is a reasonable spot.
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