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Latter Stages again!!
SirPercival:
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--- Quote from: SirPerceval on January 14, 2010, 20:51:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: JamieCarra on January 14, 2010, 20:39:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: SirPerceval on January 14, 2010, 16:05:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: JamieCarra on January 14, 2010, 13:36:36 PM ---
why the hell are we even thinking about this? It"s about as straight forward a shove as I have ever seen!
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Can you give some explanation with this?
Views seem to be split between push and fold and I don"t think it"s a straightforward decision.
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Well, we"re miles ahead of both their ranges, we"ve got about 9bb and we need to get to the top few places to make it worth our while. Makes it a pretty simple decision to me.
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maybe ahead of one of them but not miles ahead of both. More likely to be a coinflip.
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Which range do you not think we"re ahead off?
We"ve got the CL who is bullying and raising 60% of hands, and then a shortstack with about 6x who is shoving over the top of a person raising 60% of hands.
I"m pretty sure we"re going to be in great shape a huge amount of the time here.
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Have a look at my example above where we are 42%. Many hands in their range have a similar scenario.
Marty719:
Sweet - 42% with all tht $$ in the middle!! Time to try and get a stack and shoot for a top 3 finish.
I think we can b in pretty decent shape a good bit of the time against their perceived ranges. Just an ul sit to run into the top of both their ranges.
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on January 15, 2010, 09:14:12 AM ---
Sweet - 42% with all tht $$ in the middle!! Time to try and get a stack and shoot for a top 3 finish.
I think we can b in pretty decent shape a good bit of the time against their perceived ranges. Just an ul sit to run into the top of both their ranges.
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I agree - pretty decent shape. Which is why I think it"s all about attitude to winning/laddering etc. The statement I was disagreeing with was "miles ahead of both".
Marty719:
Cnt get on pokerstove in work :(
do we figure btns range is a 22-AA, A2+, KJo+, K10s+, QJo+, Q10s+ type range?
UTG"s range with the given reads is substancially wider than this?
I think we r miles ahead of their individual ranges, but the fact that we r very rarely getting rid of c/l obv negatively affects the numbers.
JamieCarra:
--- Quote from: SirPerceval on January 15, 2010, 08:42:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: JamieCarra on January 14, 2010, 21:03:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: SirPerceval on January 14, 2010, 20:51:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: JamieCarra on January 14, 2010, 20:39:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: SirPerceval on January 14, 2010, 16:05:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: JamieCarra on January 14, 2010, 13:36:36 PM ---
why the hell are we even thinking about this? It"s about as straight forward a shove as I have ever seen!
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Can you give some explanation with this?
Views seem to be split between push and fold and I don"t think it"s a straightforward decision.
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Well, we"re miles ahead of both their ranges, we"ve got about 9bb and we need to get to the top few places to make it worth our while. Makes it a pretty simple decision to me.
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maybe ahead of one of them but not miles ahead of both. More likely to be a coinflip.
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Which range do you not think we"re ahead off?
We"ve got the CL who is bullying and raising 60% of hands, and then a shortstack with about 6x who is shoving over the top of a person raising 60% of hands.
I"m pretty sure we"re going to be in great shape a huge amount of the time here.
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Have a look at my example above where we are 42%. Many hands in their range have a similar scenario.
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42% counts as miles ahead whenever we"re getting such a sick price!
Also worth noting that there will an ~8k sidepot which we should have 60 - 65% equity in.
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