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Buyin Amount for Online Series Events?

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APAT:

--- Quote from: RioRodent on October 13, 2007, 09:40:33 AM ---

--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on October 13, 2007, 08:35:38 AM ---

With twice as many online events than season one, the decision was taken to half the buy-in to keep everyones monthly outgoing the same.


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Since the Thu night tournament was introduced to appease those who complained that Sat night was not good for them, then halving the buy-in hasn"t reduced their outgoings... since they weren"t playing Sat anyway.

No one has to play both Thu and Sat.

The frustrating thing is that this thread existed, showing overwhelming support for keeping the buy-in at $20 and yet it was still reduced.

And before anyone says that the number of entries on Thu night suggests that everyone is happy... I believe the increased numbers is simply down to the fact that there was no password or requirement to pre-join APAT.

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We received a number of emails on this subject and a number of players would like the opportunity to participate in every event, but did not necessarily want to be spending $44 in tournament weeks to do so.  That, coming on top of the costs associated with participation in the new Regional series and the additional Championship events. 

This is delicate, but I think it is important that we do not exclude members from being able to participate.  APAT is almost certainly more about the community and drive for ranking points and medals, than the actual financial return available for winning our online events.  Certainly there are far bigger guaranteed prize pools available elsewhere at either the $11 or $22 entry level.

RioRodent:

--- Quote from: APAT on October 13, 2007, 14:49:06 PM ---

We received a number of emails on this subject and a number of players would like the opportunity to participate in every event, but did not necessarily want to be spending $44 in tournament weeks to do so.


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So the way to get things done/changed is to send an email?? What is the point of having this forum and inviting opinions if you just ignore those who post here, but change things to suit "anumber of players" who sent "a number of emails"? Why couldn"t these people voice their opinion on the forum?

BTW, I didn"t even get a reply to the question I asked by email!!

Just because your paranoid... doesn"t mean there"s no one after you!!

sharky_uk:

--- Quote from: APAT on October 13, 2007, 14:49:06 PM ---
This is delicate, but I think it is important that we do not exclude members from being able to participate. 

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So if 99% of the members prefer a $20+$2 entry but 1% prefer a $10+$1 entry you will go with the 1% so as not to exclude members?

APAT:

--- Quote from: RioRodent on October 13, 2007, 16:31:23 PM ---

--- Quote from: APAT on October 13, 2007, 14:49:06 PM ---

We received a number of emails on this subject and a number of players would like the opportunity to participate in every event, but did not necessarily want to be spending $44 in tournament weeks to do so.


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So the way to get things done/changed is to send an email?? What is the point of having this forum and inviting opinions if you just ignore those who post here, but change things to suit "anumber of players" who sent "a number of emails"? Why couldn"t these people voice their opinion on the forum?

BTW, I didn"t even get a reply to the question I asked by email!!

Just because your paranoid... doesn"t mean there"s no one after you!!

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A relatively small number of APAT members post on the forum.  You will find that not all of those that do, would want it known that they do not have a bankroll to support an increase in the level of buyin required over Season One.  What question did you ask by email?  

APAT:

--- Quote from: sharky_uk on October 13, 2007, 16:35:13 PM ---

--- Quote from: APAT on October 13, 2007, 14:49:06 PM ---
This is delicate, but I think it is important that we do not exclude members from being able to participate. 

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So if 99% of the members prefer a $20+$2 entry but 1% prefer a $10+$1 entry you will go with the 1% so as not to exclude members?

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I think if we put a vote to the membership on this topic, we would get a completely inconclusive response.  For example, a result of 20 for an increase in entry fee and 1 against would be be a tiny response level from the membership. 

APAT also has a responsibility to our members who do not use the forum and keeping the barriers to taking part low is part of that responsibility.  

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