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Buyin Amount for Online Series Events?
RioRodent:
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--- Quote from: sharky_uk on October 13, 2007, 16:35:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: APAT on October 13, 2007, 14:49:06 PM ---
This is delicate, but I think it is important that we do not exclude members from being able to participate.
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So if 99% of the members prefer a $20+$2 entry but 1% prefer a $10+$1 entry you will go with the 1% so as not to exclude members?
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I think if we put a vote to the membership on this topic, we would get a completely inconclusive response. For example, a result of 20 for an increase in entry fee and 1 against would be be a tiny response level from the membership.
APAT also has a responsibility to our members who do not use the forum and keeping the barriers to taking part low is part of that responsibility.
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So because the vast majority are apathetic we should ignore the majority of those who have a view? The silent majority must be in support of the vocal minority??
JulioArca:
I think the events should be password protected to prevent "anyone" playing and then have a look at the numbers. I suggest a poll of members views via an email to everyone registered after a couple of the password protected events is a fairer way to go. If the numbers increase or decrease after the poll and subsequent change to the buy-in fee then it will give a fairer indication of what members want.
In a way I agree that the buy-in should not deter people from being able to participate as surely APAT is more than "getting a return" for your 6 hours play. If that was the case we would all be playing the Guaranteed tournaments or the Sunday millions!
8)
RioRodent:
--- Quote from: APAT on May 25, 2007, 13:09:42 PM ---
There is an incredible amount to do as we approach our first anniversary and through this forum, APAT now invites members to participate in the direction that the Association will take going forward.
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We look forward to working closely with members going forward.
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sharky_uk:
--- Quote from: APAT on October 13, 2007, 16:46:29 PM ---
I think if we put a vote to the membership on this topic, we would get a completely inconclusive response. For example, a result of 20 for an increase in entry fee and 1 against would be be a tiny response level from the membership.
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But surely the results would be useful and may even be representative of the membership as a whole if you were to get a reasonable level of response. If you don"t try you will never know! Also a poll could be anonymous.
To ensure that we don"t exclude members maybe all online events should be freerolls!
I vote for a poll with the options I stated in the above post plus the freeroll option.
APAT:
I am going to speculate that your wish for an increased buy in online might be to primarily achieve one of the following:
a) a larger prize pool
b) a better quality field
c) a smaller field / shorter tournament
As a player, those are all very justifiable reasons for wanting a larger buy in. If I was playing in these events, I would want an increased buy in also.
However, the APAT management have to take a wider view to some of these decisions. We have additional variables to consider, including but not limited to ensuring that we do not price out existing members - many of whom are less vocal, and I think labelling them apathetic is unfair - and that we have as few barriers as possible in our overall objective of bringing new players into online and then live poker.
Strength in numbers will deliver the ever increasing value that we want to see in the live series and will be our best opportunity as a body to deliver the sort of change necessary in the live environment.
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