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Hand 111 from 'winning poker tourneys one hand at a time'
Marty719:
I still dnt think raise/stacking off is the right move on this flop. Given his tight image I think the guys range is literally 1010+, AcKx. I also don"t think the villain stacks off 2/ red 10"s.
We r prob getting the right price against his range, but I just cnt help feel its a pretty ridiculous spot to put urself in w/ 85x at the opening stages. I think he may have taken the worst line available and just happened to be up against the one hand in the range he has dominated.
deanp27:
i don"t think anyone has disagreed with you Marty, but if you do decide to raise the flop i think folding is wrong. I would have flatted the flop
Marty719:
--- Quote from: deanp27 on February 26, 2010, 12:10:46 PM ---
i don"t think anyone has disagreed with you Marty, but if you do decide to raise the flop i think folding is wrong. I would have flatted the flop
--- End quote ---
Yea, agreed. Wish he went into more details about y he thinks raise>fold. Its a weird line against given reads.
shozboy1:
problem if you flat the flop is that there"s not many cards other than a jack we can be happy seeing if he fires again? Any ace/king/queen are scary cards, and definitely becomes difficult to continue. Also any club means Ac Kc Qc just got there.
However, like Marty you said about the monte carlo hand, flatting would be better if the villain was deeper stacked no?
shozboy1:
Sorry, just to mention one further thing, for me the key learning point was to flat call the raise pfr. Raising to find out where we are would get him to shove some of his range - making us fold JJ, and the rest of the time he folds the part of his range we beat. Earlier in the book there"s alot of support for repopping of pfr raisers with easily muckable but potentially home run hands like suited 1 and 2 gappers. As apestyles mentions, repopping here turns our jj into any 2 random cards when he comes over the top of us
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