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Was this attempted bluff terrible?

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shozboy1:
ok thanks. I knew I would get a well deserved pasting on this one. Part of my motivation to post this was to drive it home how terrible this was, so hopefully I won"t do it again.

After all the comments, I think the following actions would have been better, either:
1. fold preflop
2. Recognise I couldnt sell anything on this board to the villain so give up. Probably would have needed 1-2 broadways cards to   come down to make it semi-believable
3. If those broadways had come down either on the flop or turn, perhaps I would"ve been better bringing forward my river bet to the turn - more believable.

I"ve generally being doing ok at 25/50, but I think I"ve semi lost my way alittle in the last few weeks getting over-involved in pots with marginals and trying to outplay the wrong people (either decent players, or those that never fold)

Swinebag:
10/10 for posting a hand that you played awfully. Hope you learn from it

TheSnapper:

--- Quote from: shozboy1 on March 01, 2010, 10:08:03 AM ---

I"ve generally being doing ok at 25/50, but I think I"ve semi lost my way alittle in the last few weeks getting over-involved in pots with marginals and trying to outplay the wrong people (either decent players, or those that never fold)


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Have been through this type of period, in my case, I got a bit over confident and tried to outplay them. The problem is that you tend to try and rewrite the rules for "outplay" and get involved with 5hitty hands like J7o  ;)( you"re not alone ). When really you just need to keep you"re ranges strong and exploit the fact that they play weaker ranges and pay you off light.

George2Loose:
Fold Pre
Fold to the 3 bet
Fold flop
If you check raise flop, bet turn to set up river shove

UKChamp:
Ignoring the obv hand selection issue I dont outright hate the call pre (so long as there is a credible plan/story to tell to the villain) but in that position and facing a 3bet from the blinds I am likely to 4b lighter and take from there if you really want to get involved. And in these positions I am nearly always 4b bluffing junk hands way more than marginal/value hands (which I otherwise flat with) that may run often into dominated positions once called down.

As for the flop raise I dont like it at all. Texture drives action and with such a dry and brick laden flop for a 3bet pot its difficult to see where someone would raise for value.

Villaims check check looks weak and screams pot control with over pair. If he had check turn bet river I would have read as house/AA-JJ but more likely I think he now has 88+ and with you checking back on the turn the river bet just doesnt tie up with any superior hand. Surely in your position over pairs would be looking to grwo the pot on the turn, only nut hands check back to induce a bluff and even then with the pot controlling line villain has taken I dont see him checking to fold at all, hes checking to snap call.

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