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S4 Online National League 1 - Matchday 2
coprey:
Well said Mark. I agree with all your comments, although I think there is room to tweak the structure slightly. :)
Waz1892:
--- Quote from: VBlue on March 15, 2010, 10:34:28 AM ---
Here"s my two-penneth worth:
1) Betfair - seems OK. Missing a few features that other sites carry, but on the whole will do the job. I only use for the APAT games anyway.
2) Online league game structure - seems about right. I agree with Leigh's comment - midnight finish is late enough for those players who have an early start on Monday. I thought the FT would be a shove fest, but it was far from it in Div 3"s game.3) Standard of players - mixed, as at any tournament, WSOP, EPT, GUKPT, WPT included. These complaints about poor opposition, bingo, and all the rest of it exists on every poker site and at every tournament. If you cannot adjust your play to beat the poorer players (over the long-term) then you are a poor player yourself. Sucking out is part of the game. Variance is a bitch and is also part of the game. Surely, those who have played online for any length of time know that by now. I couldn"t win a pub game for the first couple of months when I started one up a couple of years ago despite having years of experience on nearly all the players. Then I adjusted my play to suit the opposition and found I was the No 1 cashing player over 2 years.
4) APAT Community - In the Div 3 game, whilst my opening table was a little quiet earlier on, the banter soon followed. If you are unhappy with the level of banter, why not look to whip it up yourself?
Finally, I have been observing the APAT for over a year now and have finally found time to get involved. I am, and always have been, very impressed with their offering. As someone who is involved in a local poker community, promoting and hosting events, I know how difficult it can be to get it right for everyone. I also know how players can be worse than a knitting circle when they get together and bitch about everything they can find (stich and bitch).
Constructive criticisim is absolutely valuable. But unconstructie criticism is damaging and causes a lot of work to overcome. I would say be part of the solution, not part of the problem. And remember that you are only one customer and that not absolutely everything will suit you, but must appeal to the many.
- I would prefer not to be on Betfair, but it will do.
- I am fairly happy with the structure and see sense in the 12pm finish.
- I like banter, so I instigate it. I go out of my way to find out who is playing for who and I get on with the wisecracks.
- I want more players to join Carlisle Poker Club, so I am recuriting amongst my friends on facebook and from my local poker club. I am also contacting them on match day via APAT and supporting them by railing them.
Are you contributing to the continued shaping of this succesful poker club or are you simply bemoaning your bad luck at getting sucked out on? Look at what you have to offer APAT as well as what they have to offer you. I am sure that all players have a great contribution to make.
Cheers
Mark.
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Couldn"t agree more..structure was fine with a midnight finish on a Sunday.
As for the bingo/fish/ I"m better than you posts in this thread...
As it is over a 10 match period, then surely the so called "bad" players will not proceed with the vast amount of luck ::) they clearly had in beating the " better" players.
I"m always under the impression you want the calls when your ahead, and if you keep getting it in good, then it"ll work in the end - you"ll get more points, your team will succeed etc, etc.
It"s 10 games..it will go against you at some point!
pokerpops:
Structure this week was much improved and I managed to stay at the table long enough to get a feel for the tournament and to enjoy my time in it.
Wasn"t happy with my exit but I guess if you"re chip leader or close to it then raising with 7h 8h from SB and calling the BB"s all in is ok. I had K 10 I think - he made a straight on the river... I win the next one of those, probably.
One thing puzzled me - a couple of players made it clear that they felt that internet poker (or net sh*te as they described it) wasn"t as random as live poker is. Surely we all know that the "internet poker is rigged" argument is over?
daveyb147:
The blind structure was too quick the first week,,,seemed much better last night,,,bound to be a few adjustments needed with a new site,,,well done apat/betfair for adjusting so promptly,,,,,the betfair software probably does need tweaking but at least i can stay connected,which i couldnt last year,,,,i think once we all get used to it we will agree that it was a great move,,,,,,now all i need is some cards !!!!! lol
Lankylad:
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on March 14, 2010, 22:01:39 PM ---
Guys,
Your views on why you think these games aren"t at the standard you would want, would be gratefully appreciated.
We are always listening to feedback, it"s easy to criticise, but we want to improve the games, so need the input from players.
Cheers,
Leigh
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It was a lot more improved this week and a much better game. Being able to actually play and having time to observe the table and other players will make it better for the more skilled and they will come out on top over the ten week period, no matter how many suck outs there are in between. I think some people just come on here after being knocked out and let off steam.
For me the icing on the cake would be the inclusion of two extra blind levels in the earlier stages. The early stage blinds as they are now is -
10/20
15/30
25/50
50/100
75/150
100/200
150/300
I would like to maybe see a 20/40 and a 30/60 (or even a 35/70) included in that so it would be as follows -
10/20
15/30
20/40
25/50
30/60
50/100
75/150
This would add a literal time of 26 mins with the inclusion of those two new levels, but wouldn"t have a massive overall effect on the finishing time. It also wouldn"t affect the blinds before or after the two new levels. This as i said would be a lovely addition, but isn"t necessarily needed as i think it"s pretty close to being as good as it can get structure wise now, neither being a crapshoot or a tedious long drawn out game!
Just an idea ;)
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