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S4 Online National League 1 - Matchday 2
MintTrav:
Can we take a time-out to cool off, Bart? It is infuriating when you are sucked-out on, but shortly afterwards is not the best time to post your feelings about it. We all feel outraged at certain times when we have outplayed someone to get their chips in bad and they get lucky yet again. Being able to manage our reactions to this is part of what makes for a more successful poker player. APAT players have a varied range of styles and abilities but I think that the standard of both the average and top-end players is stronger than is found in other non-professional tournaments. You may have encountered some examples of play that you didn"t agree with, but that doesn"t mean that they are representative or that your sample is large enough to draw conclusions, so I think it"s best if we allow feelings to cool down for a couple of days and I will contact you then.
My main concern, obviously, is that Dave & Leigh don"t have to make their own way to Swansea, cos God knows if we would ever see them again. Also, we need every player we can get for the Solent team, even those who keep stacking off to worse players ;).
PS: I can"t see much benefit in a series of ripostes now being posted. Not sure what there is to say that hasn"t been said before.
Mikeyboy9361:
The chat and banter on my table was typical APAT, very good natured, and the input from observers was humerous, no complaints on that score, just the poker!!
coprey:
I enjoyed the game last night until i got put out :D. The banter at the table was fine, and I enjoyed chatting with my fellow teammates and a few other railers, who provided some support and friendly chat. The forum is the means whereby we get an opportunity to feedback any issues to APAT. There are both positive and negative ways in going about this, id prefer the former over the latter. :)
BurnleyMik:
My apologies if I came accross a bit harsh in my last post.
FWIW the structure is fine IMO as if it finishes much later I doubt many would be able to play. Just take these games at face value IMO and enjoy them. Last night was good fun and I like the team mates aspect of the game, except when they are both on your left and you don;t want to steal their blinds every round!
:)
VBlue:
Here"s my two-penneth worth:
1) Betfair - seems OK. Missing a few features that other sites carry, but on the whole will do the job. I only use for the APAT games anyway.
2) Online league game structure - seems about right. I agree with Leigh's comment - midnight finish is late enough for those players who have an early start on Monday. I thought the FT would be a shove fest, but it was far from it in Div 3"s game.
3) Standard of players - mixed, as at any tournament, WSOP, EPT, GUKPT, WPT included. These complaints about poor opposition, bingo, and all the rest of it exists on every poker site and at every tournament. If you cannot adjust your play to beat the poorer players (over the long-term) then you are a poor player yourself. Sucking out is part of the game. Variance is a bitch and is also part of the game. Surely, those who have played online for any length of time know that by now. I couldn"t win a pub game for the first couple of months when I started one up a couple of years ago despite having years of experience on nearly all the players. Then I adjusted my play to suit the opposition and found I was the No 1 cashing player over 2 years.
4) APAT Community - In the Div 3 game, whilst my opening table was a little quiet earlier on, the banter soon followed. If you are unhappy with the level of banter, why not look to whip it up yourself?
Finally, I have been observing the APAT for over a year now and have finally found time to get involved. I am, and always have been, very impressed with their offering. As someone who is involved in a local poker community, promoting and hosting events, I know how difficult it can be to get it right for everyone. I also know how players can be worse than a knitting circle when they get together and bitch about everything they can find (stich and bitch).
Constructive criticisim is absolutely valuable. But unconstructie criticism is damaging and causes a lot of work to overcome. I would say be part of the solution, not part of the problem. And remember that you are only one customer and that not absolutely everything will suit you, but must appeal to the many.
- I would prefer not to be on Betfair, but it will do.
- I am fairly happy with the structure and see sense in the 12pm finish.
- I like banter, so I instigate it. I go out of my way to find out who is playing for who and I get on with the wisecracks.
- I want more players to join Carlisle Poker Club, so I am recuriting amongst my friends on facebook and from my local poker club. I am also contacting them on match day via APAT and supporting them by railing them.
Are you contributing to the continued shaping of this succesful poker club or are you simply bemoaning your bad luck at getting sucked out on? Look at what you have to offer APAT as well as what they have to offer you. I am sure that all players have a great contribution to make.
Cheers
Mark.
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