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Random card genarator CAN IT REALLY BE TRUSTED OR PROVEN

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2make1whole:
I HAVE ALWAYS QUESTIONED THE RANDOM CARD GENARATOR AND EVEN EMAILED SITE ABOUT IT.NUMEROUS TIMES IVE BEEN DEALT SAME CARDS SAME SUITS TWICE EVEN 3 TIMES IN ROW B4.AND THEN THERES THE CASE OF IN MY EYES FROM PLAYING 1000S HANDS ONLINE IT JUST SEEMS TO BE THAT THE HANDS THAT ARE 30%/40% HIT ABOUT 60%70% OF THE TIME.WE ALL AHVE BAD BEATS AND HAVE GIVEN BEATS OUT TO BUT CAN EVERYBODY BE WRONG BECAUSE THEY ALL SEEM TO SAY SAME THAT HANDS BEHIND OR DOMINATED SEEM TO HIT AND WIN SO MUCH.

WHATS YOUR VIEW PLEASE

APAT:
Random number generators are exactly that, totally random.  There is absolutely no question about that at reputable sites like Ladbrokes, Blue Square, PokerStars, Sky and each other well known poker operator out there.  These businesses have to pass stringent testing in their onshore / offshore licensed juridstictions.

FlyingPig73:
This is something that is covered in  forms of Mathematics and Physics.

A computer can not be totally random, because it follows a pattern that is laid out by a program. Although that pattern is so laid out that by the program in such away that the pattern it would produce would take so long to figure out that it is unfathoumable (is that a word). It would follow string which cannot be followed. I think is right, or at least it was when I done applied Mathematics.

The difference is you will never trust a computer, although its as random as dealing the cards yourself.

If you where playing live, and your oppo got dealt aa three times in a row, you would say you are so lucky, if it happened online you would say its fixed, the computer wants you to win.

kinboshi:
Also, no need to use capitals - that"s the online equivalent of shouting.

Jon MW:

--- Quote from: FlyingPig73 on October 26, 2007, 00:23:57 AM ---
This is something that is covered in  forms of Mathematics and Physics.

A computer can not be totally random, because it follows a pattern that is laid out by a program. Although that pattern is so laid out that by the program in such away that the pattern it would produce would take so long to figure out that it is unfathoumable (is that a word). It would follow string which cannot be followed. I think is right, or at least it was when I done applied Mathematics.

The difference is you will never trust a computer, although its as random as dealing the cards yourself.

If you where playing live, and your oppo got dealt aa three times in a row, you would say you are so lucky, if it happened online you would say its fixed, the computer wants you to win.

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The RNG"s are totally trustworthy from the point of view that the site"s will not try and tamper with them to make them less random.

If anything they are almost certainly more random then live shuffles.

But they aren"t unfathomable, if you knew the initialisation point that the RNG used and the type of RNG being used you could crack it. However, these types of details are kept very well hidden by the poker sites and even if you did know them it would still take some pretty nifty cryptographic software to crack them.

So if you want to worry, then worry about whether anybody else knows what cards you"ve got not what cards you"re getting. And then still don"t worry because it"s highly unlikely (using this method anyway).

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