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Random card genarator CAN IT REALLY BE TRUSTED OR PROVEN

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duke3016:
If they are clever (and they ain"t stupid)  the initailisation point for the RNG is almost certainly the millisecond portion of the time of day on their server.. Therefore you will never get it..... But the effectiveness of this generator is the key. I am sure that they are regulated and this is indepentently checked on all the major sites. I agree with Jon they are certainly more random that a shiite live shuffle (ask Shogun  ::) )

H-Man81:
Don"t get me wrong, I"m as annoyed as the next person when someone hits runner runner 3 times in a row or someone hits a one outer to knock me out of a tournament but I always think it is farcial when people question the randomness of a poker sites cards.  People seem to forget that when you play online you probably see 4 hands for every one live (possibly even more) so it is inevitable that you are going to see more bad beats/suck outs etc.  People seem to also forget that AK getting outflopped by J9 is not a bad beat!

It"s strange how you don"t here from the winning players about how sites are fixed

kinboshi:
The other thing to remember is that the "cards" are continuously shuffled until the last action is made, so once the flop is down, the deck is still being shuffled before turn is dealt. 

So when you fold on the flop, and see a turn or river card that would have won you the hand it"s worth remembering that if you"d called, the turn and river would have most probably been different cards.

Foggy:

--- Quote from: Kinboshi on October 26, 2007, 11:59:51 AM ---
The other thing to remember is that the "cards" are continuously shuffled until the last action is made, so once the flop is down, the deck is still being shuffled before turn is dealt.  
So when you fold on the flop, and see a turn or river card that would have won you the hand it"s worth remembering that if you"d called, the turn and river would have most probably been different cards.



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Are you sure Daniel, I was always under the impression that as a live shuffle/deal the pack was not touched after the start of the deal.

HaworthBantam:

--- Quote from: Foggy on October 26, 2007, 12:15:32 PM ---

--- Quote from: Kinboshi on October 26, 2007, 11:59:51 AM ---
The other thing to remember is that the "cards" are continuously shuffled until the last action is made, so once the flop is down, the deck is still being shuffled before turn is dealt.  
So when you fold on the flop, and see a turn or river card that would have won you the hand it"s worth remembering that if you"d called, the turn and river would have most probably been different cards.



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Are you sure Daniel, I was always under the impression that as a live shuffle/deal the pack was not touched after the start of the deal.

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I believe Daniel is correct, although his use of the word "shuffle" might be misleading. The Turn and River will be determined at the moment the card is exposed, based on a random number generated at that time, which will be based on an element of the time at that moment.

So if you were to call 5 seconds after a bet is made, the Turn or River exposed would be different to that exposed if you"d waited another half a second to make your call.

Does that sound right Daniel, or am I way off the mark.....?

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