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First out in Swansea - Hand advice needed!

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deanp27:
just to clarify, when i say flat the turn i don"t mean flatting the original 600 bet i mean flatting the 3bet to 2600.

fraac:

--- Quote from: showdown on March 23, 2010, 08:08:17 AM ---
I think perhaps I was destined to lose this one.  Even when he had K10 for 2 pair would he have laid down to a shove on the turn?  Maybe, but who knows....

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I know he would"ve folded if you 3bet preflop. ;)

showdown:

--- Quote from: fraac on March 23, 2010, 10:43:19 AM ---
I know he would"ve folded if you 3bet preflop. ;)

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I think I should have been in the toilet and saved myself any kind of decision....

BOINGBLITZ:
We had mountains of discussions about hands like this over the weekend. But when that 2nd 10 hits and he jams it all-in, if you ask yourself the question "What am I beating?" then think you are behind yet STILL CALL, then that is the worse play ever.......though we have all made it !
 The best part of live poker is that you have the time to make these tough decisions and think them through and you dont get that online. Try to go back over the hand in your head and when you put him on a hand, ask yourself if you wouldve played that hand the way he did. If the story he is telling doesn"t seem to add up, then you should call.
 You did play this badly though. His bet of  600, which gets one call and then when you raise to 1600 and HE then goes to 2600, it screams either a set or 2 pair (BOTH of which you are ahead of) or at worst, he has the same hand as you.
 Therefore, you get all your chips in like s..t off a shovel !
The fact that he hits on the river is irrelevant to your play in pushing. If you play a hand correctly and lose, then you can"t beat yourself up about it. On this occasion though you played it poorly IMO as you shouldve shoved on the turn and passed on the river.
 By the way.......if you are playing against Steve Bayliff or Dan Owston, IGNORE EVERYTHING I JUST SAID !!

pompeytone:
Some interesting posts here so for one of my first posts on this forum i thought i"d chip in.

Leigh, you didnt know him or the way in which he plays so all you had left was the strength of your hand.
When the Q comes on the turn you have the nuts and cannot be beaten so i think the best play available to you here is, as many have already said, to shove when re-raised. Regardless of what happens after this you can say " i made the right decision".
Now in retrospect when you have played until the river you have to ask yourself a couple of questions, What is my opponents style of play and my tournament life is on the line and lastly, he raised on the turn with what that would cause him to put his tournament life on the line. He surely knew you were very strong as he asked the question on the turn, so therefore probably already knew he would get paid off.
The reason i think you posted here is because of that age old question we have all asked ourselves many times before "How did i get myself into this situation again"
Chalk it up to experience and a teaspoon-full of bad luck.

Bring on London where i hope to meet you all for the first time.

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