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kinboshi:
I don"t think anyone wants to "exclude players for the wrong reasons" Des. Everyone who has expressed an opinion on this has put a good reason for their point of view.
For the long-term growth and development of APAT, it makes perfect sense to allow all to enter. That can only be good for the future. Many are looking at it from the point of view that it"s not about the future of APAT (as we"ve started Season 2 now), but about the appropriate way to end Season 1.
I can see both points of view. Without the Season 1 players, Season 2 wouldn"t be what it is. Without APAT and the work of Des, Rich and others, then Season 1 wouldn"t have happened.
It"s unfortunate that there were obstacles that prevented this event from happening earlier. I know Des has worked hard to get round them. If it had fallen under the auspices of PokerStars then we wouldn"t be discussing this now. However, for Season 2 to be what it is (and what it"s going to be) - BlueSQ (and the Rank group) were needed. Their interests need to be catered for as well.
No solution is ideal for all.
APAT:
IMO, the key reason for wanting to exclude additional players is to increase one"s chance of personal success. Anything else is smoke and mirrors. On a personal level, we are all competitive and I"m not saying that wanting to take this approach is wrong. However, I do not believe it is the APAT way.
Season One / Season Two, I think it"s largely immaterial. This event is being held in a few weeks time and had it been held as a completely live event, who is to say that the key leaders of the Season One rankings would have made it into the field?
This issue is also not related to PokerStars, Blue Square or any other third parties. It is important for the future relevance of APAT that the organisation grows and we are the ones driving that growth.
GiMac:
Ok I agree, the horse has bolted on season 1 and we have what we have.
Can someone address my two points please?
1. I think $75-100 is too cheap for an event of this standing and buy in should be at least the buy in for any of the live events £75 i.e. $150, if not slightly more noting the prestige of the event.
2. Can we also get confirmation of prize structure for tournament, noting that the prize fund could easily exceed $150k?
Cheers
APAT:
--- Quote from: GiMac on November 05, 2007, 17:19:32 PM ---
Ok I agree, the horse has bolted on season 1 and we have what we have.
Can someone address my two points please?
1. I think $75-100 is too cheap for an event of this standing and buy in should be at least the buy in for any of the live events £75 i.e. $150, if not slightly more noting the prestige of the event.
2. Can we also get confirmation of prize structure for tournament, noting that the prize fund could easily exceed $150k?
Cheers
--- End quote ---
Both still to be determined. I think $150 is too much personally, but will be discussing that with the team.
Jon MW:
Also what will happen in the event someone reaches the final 6 online but can"t make it to the live final?
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