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noble1:
Hero has few post flop reads , pre-flop he feels he has been run over by villain in spots and that he has not adjusted well to him .. He remembers raising utg and getting 3bet by villain in which he called and then folded eventually post-flop upon which villain showed him a bluff with 54s.. Hero has also described a situation when villain made a 4bet and hero called with QT leaving only a pot size bet in his stack , villain check folded a KJx flop to heros bet , hero showed villain his QT after which villain made remarks that hero sucked ..  Villain is thought of as crazy by hero [villain is a good player though]
Villain and hero do not run into each other in a hand for quite while when this hand occurs -

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (8 handed)

Hero ($2266.50)
Button ($4795.50)
SB ($8009)
BB ($2652)
UTG ($1230)
UTG+1 ($7836)
MP1 ($3981)
MP2 ($2271)

Preflop: Hero is CO with  ah,  :as:.
4 folds, Hero raises to $80, 1 fold, SB calls $70, 1 fold.

Flop: ($180)  : :2s:,  kc,  6d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $120, SB calls $120.

Turn: ($420)  9s (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($420)  th (2 players)
SB bets $180, Hero raises to $440, SB raises to $7809, Hero...? [hero has $1626 behind]


What do u think to both players lines of play? ..
I"ve lifted this from another forum so that u can compare thoughts afterwards to the replies that hero got in original thread , i"ll give it 2 or 3 days before i post the thread .. If theres plenty of debate/interest and discussion with each other then i"ll post every now and then different threads/situations like this but at different stakes/buy ins to try and keep the strategy forum ticking over...

Marty719:
Pretty dependant of villains views on hero and history.  History given doesn"t really affect this hand too much.  Villains views on hero"s river tendancies are pretty important.

Against an unknown, I think it goes bet turn and b/f river.  I dnt think r/c river is too profitable against many players.

Villains small bet-sizing on the river seems to be inducing also, but with history this could be a pure leveling war.  Heros raise also leaves plenty of f/e for villain, but I cnt c too much air in his range as played.  

Mikeyboy9361:
Seems all fairly standard until the river, my line of play would have been exactly the same as the Hero, up until the river. By checking the turn, Hero has shown villain that he is now not sure if he is in front, and as such the villains river bet is assured, but how much? The small bet seems to me to be screaming for a raise, I would just be calling here. Having raised Hero should be willing to get away from the massive bet on the end. But it is read dependent, if Hero has seen Villain make this move light then he might feel inclined to make the call.

LongshanksED:
Horrible situation, especially with history between the 2.

Tbh I"d rather just flat call the villians river bet. Think not betting the turn is a mistake. Maybe lead the turn for 1/2 pot. If I"m repopped thn I"m in a sticky spot


As played i would have to fold and hate myself for it. Bit then again alot of ifs and buts due to level of bankroll etc

WYoung83:
 I dont think the check behind on turn is a mistake, it sort of disguises hero hand and there are no draws out there anyway, (apart from the gutshot off the flop, and the 7-8 or q-j runner runner) but villain is supposed to be a good player so he is not usually on a draw here.  
Pot controll check behind is not always too bad. Remember the villan check called the flop oop, so it seems likely he has a made hand already (Like a set of 6s) or is going to make a meta game style of play later on based on previous hands etc, ( It is just to unlikely that he has the gutshot)  And if he is floating the flop oop with the 8-7 and picks up the 8 outer, then good luck to him, and hes probably going to bet the river if he misses anyway, so your check is the perfect way to pick up his bluff on the river.

I think calling the river bet was the best play imo, and now folding to his raise. Villain will either show up with the really sick k-10 or a set from the flop too often for aces to be any good. But im not very good at cash games so surprise me noble1.

Also love the idea of bringing hands here, becuase the forum has been dead these last coupple of months.

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