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Folding Kings pre flop
Jon MW:
... you don"t have to captain a table to win.
In fact if you haven"t naturally got the skills to do so you"re more likely to just donk off all those extra chips trying to do so.
But in a slight amendment to my previous acceptance of the folding in a deep stack tournament idea, I would add that while I think that is what I should do because that would be the best thing for me - if you are good enough to do a lot of damage with a big stack then maybe it would be best for you to take the risk early on.
But I think for most people the extra chips early on won"t make any significant difference to the rest of their tournament so it isn"t worth the risk.
H-Man81:
--- Quote from: Buck Pete on November 06, 2007, 12:26:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: H-Man81 on November 06, 2007, 11:48:57 AM ---
I"ll throw my 10c in and lodge myself firmly in the Kin/Thinker JE school of thought. In a deepstack tournament like the APAT nationals this is a 100% fold for me. I"m there to play some poker and risking your whole tournament on the first hand to me is nothing short of ridiculous.
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Try telling that to players like Lawrence Gosney who has won a WSOP bracelet.
They will take huge risks at the start of a tournement to establish a healthy stack to enable them to captain a table.
So what happens late in day 1 when your stack is so low and you pick up KK? You"d still push i am 99.9% certain.
If you run into AA the results are the same except you get home much later.
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If I"m a professional player, who"s income is derived from Poker or money doesn"t matter and it"s all about the glory, then I am calling 100% of the time. However I am not a professional player and contrary to some of the miserable gits I see sitting at a poker table, I play for enjoyment and for the love of the game. Any money I win from poker is great but I would still play in these tournaments if it was prizes rather than money (may be in the minority here ;) If I have played for seven hours and my Kings run into Aces pre-flop and I bust out of a tournament, then fair enough, I"ve played some poker (hopefully some really good poker!) and got my money"s worth. Getting knocked out first hand (regardless of odds, value etc etc) is not enjoyable as far as I"m concerned!
Swinebag:
--- Quote from: Philippos13 on November 05, 2007, 15:04:38 PM ---
(dont know if you seen the hand AA VS KK VS QQ if you havent youtube it ...it is really sick)
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I was dealing at the manchester regional and managed to deal that scenario. No classy lay downs here though and the AA held up.
Buck Pete:
If someone is going to lay down KK in the face of every re-raise they must also be prepared to lay down QQ,JJ,AK,AQ
So in effect they are only comfortable playing AA
I"m sorry, but premium hands just don"t come round enough to play that type of game.
Don"t fancy sitting 8 hrs getting blinded out waiting for AA.
Lets face it we can never be 100% sure what our opponent holds can we?
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: Buck Pete on November 06, 2007, 13:29:02 PM ---
If someone is going to lay down KK in the face of every re-raise they must also be prepared to lay down QQ,JJ,AK,AQ
So in effect they are only comfortable playing AA
I"m sorry, but premium hands just don"t come round enough to play that type of game.
Don"t fancy sitting 8 hrs getting blinded out waiting for AA.
Lets face it we can never be 100% sure what our opponent holds can we?
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I think an all in re-raise is a bit different to a reraise?
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