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Flopped set - live cash game
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: LongshanksED on August 02, 2010, 13:34:56 PM ---
I obviously don"t want him to fold but I dont want to give him the correct odds on calling but it"s a cash game and not a tourney. In a tourney I want to be getting it all but in cash this is immediately a 30bb pot and adding around 30% to my stack (if we started at 100bb). I"ll take that every time I flop a set to see a constant profit!
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In a cash game with 100xBBs or less I want to get my stack in with a flopped set as quickly as I can - as that will give me the highest constant profit. Early in a deep-stack tournament I might be looking to control the pot.
If the flop had been three clubs I still don"t think I"m going anywhere in this hand with the effective stack sizes.
noble1:
--- Quote from: LongshanksED on August 02, 2010, 13:34:56 PM ---
I obviously don"t want him to fold but I dont want to give him the correct odds on calling but it"s a cash game and not a tourney. In a tourney I want to be getting it all but in cash this is immediately a 30bb pot and adding around 30% to my stack (if we started at 100bb). I"ll take that every time I flop a set to see a constant profit!
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shanks we can assume villain is inexperienced by Daves reads plus his bet sizing pre oop with limpers.. So what are his likely hands, over pairs or 2 high cards to a flush draw are way behind a set here , a set against this range is 85%+ to win so raising so large is pointless unless u think villain will not let go of over pairs or flush draws..
Dave you played it fine by calling his push, even if u put over sets in villains range u would be 75%+ to win , the reraise size is debatable with the effective stacks and pot size but i cant be arsed to add up lol :) [please put in pot sizes and stacks sizes when u post, this helps getting better answers, especially with the 2 behind you to act, did u have any reads on them?]
For this sort of level of play generally just raise when u are ahead or lead for value , these sort of opponents just play there hands and can rarely fold what they perceive to be strong..
Brush up on your equitys against ranges [it gets easier the more u review and discuss via forums/friends etc] and u cant go far wrong if u bet or reraise flops when u have decent equity , likewise 4th and 5th street..
LongshanksED:
I don"t think the hero did anything wrong here.
But rememeber it"s just not the SB villian in the hand. There was 2 other callers into the pot. Even if standardly the SB has an over pair to this board, we don"t want to let any of the other 2 into the pot.
George2Loose:
U played it fine. If anything I raise less to induce.
Everything else is results orientated nonsense. You"re not really deep enough "to peel one off"
Newportlad:
--- Quote from: kinboshi on August 02, 2010, 12:56:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: xxMAIRxx on August 02, 2010, 11:11:39 AM ---
I don"t play cash much, forgetting the flop, this is pre, but tbh utg 10 handed, yeah you have limped in for £1 but when it is raised to £6 and there are 3 to act after you, I cant see im calling £5 raise with 22. You say you are happy to see the flop limped for £1, why call the £5 raise with 22?
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It"s a perfect spot to call with 22, as the other two limpers are unlikely to re-raise, and if they do it"ll be a significant bet and you can then fold having only invested 6xBBs.
The reason we play 22 is to set mine, and this flop is what we wanted. The fact it"s been raised pre-flop is even better, as that enables us to get our whole stack in easier, rather than trying to build the pot over the streets.
If you can get 77xBBs in on this flop - that"s a +EV move and exactly where you want to be. You lose the hand, just shrug and reload.
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THIS +1
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