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Flopped set - live cash game
noble1:
--- Quote from: LongshanksED on August 02, 2010, 18:45:14 PM ---
I don"t think the hero did anything wrong here.
But rememeber it"s just not the SB villian in the hand. There was 2 other callers into the pot. Even if standardly the SB has an over pair to this board, we don"t want to let any of the other 2 into the pot.
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shank stove it please, a set here is around 65% equity 4way even if the 2 behind brain fart and shove/call oesd"s or inside str8s with a flush draw etc , if they have a over set then heyho at this level.. You dont want to reraise so much as to drive them out but do it enough to let them make a mistake, even if the 2 behind went all in i"d quite welcome it :)
AJDUK:
OK guys if you"re the oppo here what would you have done post flop with his hand? Is he a donk or was this just one of those times where the money goes in? Perhaps you do what he did against some but peel one off against others? Interested to hear thoughts.
kinboshi:
noble1:
--- Quote from: kinboshi on August 02, 2010, 21:39:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: AJDUK on August 02, 2010, 19:52:36 PM ---
OK guys if you"re the oppo here what would you have done post flop with his hand? Is he a donk or was this just one of those times where the money goes in? Perhaps you do what he did against some but peel one off against others? Interested to hear thoughts.
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For a start, I hate his stack of 77xBBs. It"s a horrible amount that makes it difficult to play through the streets, and awkward when you"re trying to size your bets. Either sit down with 100xBBs+, or play a short-stack if that"s your game. Sitting with something inbetween makes everything more difficult - including getting the maximum return when you do hit.
I don"t particularly like the raise OOP with kc tc to £6 (even if they are green). Once he gets the three callers there"s now £24 in the middle and he leads out for £8. Not sure what that"s meant to achieve as he"s giving the others the right price to call to hit and the opportunity for people to raise if they"re ahead. I"d prefer the check call rather than the wimpy donk lead.
Now the UTG player who limp called has re-raised to £30, and I have to shove or fold. Calling isn"t an option with my stack size, and I want to see two more cards not just the turn (not that I could fold it, but if I do turn the club I don"t want to lose any action - again, with the stack sizes as they are it"s inevitable it"s all going in if they have an over pair, a set or even a flush draw of their own).
When I hit my flush I realise that I got lucky, so it"s probably best to compliment the other player on his skills to distract everyone"s attention to that. Then I look for my butler and order Jeeves to get me another drink...
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kinboshi:
--- Quote from: noble1 on August 03, 2010, 00:40:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: kinboshi on August 02, 2010, 21:39:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: AJDUK on August 02, 2010, 19:52:36 PM ---
OK guys if you"re the oppo here what would you have done post flop with his hand? Is he a donk or was this just one of those times where the money goes in? Perhaps you do what he did against some but peel one off against others? Interested to hear thoughts.
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For a start, I hate his stack of 77xBBs. It"s a horrible amount that makes it difficult to play through the streets, and awkward when you"re trying to size your bets. Either sit down with 100xBBs+, or play a short-stack if that"s your game. Sitting with something inbetween makes everything more difficult - including getting the maximum return when you do hit.
I don"t particularly like the raise OOP with kc tc to £6 (even if they are green). Once he gets the three callers there"s now £24 in the middle and he leads out for £8. Not sure what that"s meant to achieve as he"s giving the others the right price to call to hit and the opportunity for people to raise if they"re ahead. I"d prefer the check call rather than the wimpy donk lead.
Now the UTG player who limp called has re-raised to £30, and I have to shove or fold. Calling isn"t an option with my stack size, and I want to see two more cards not just the turn (not that I could fold it, but if I do turn the club I don"t want to lose any action - again, with the stack sizes as they are it"s inevitable it"s all going in if they have an over pair, a set or even a flush draw of their own).
When I hit my flush I realise that I got lucky, so it"s probably best to compliment the other player on his skills to distract everyone"s attention to that. Then I look for my butler and order Jeeves to get me another drink...
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Aha, but I was putting myself in the villain"s shoes. I never berate anyone at the table. Firstly, it serves to achieve nothing positive (if fact, often the opposite), and secondly they"ve paid to play the tournament or sit down at a cash game and they can do what they want with their chips (as long as they don"t break the rules).
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