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Marty719:

--- Quote from: noble1 on October 07, 2010, 13:19:18 PM ---

it smells of bluff, if u had any sort of inkling that villain attacked weakness i would call [as played]...as marty suspects villain could well have air or turned a weaker hand into a bluff , hmmm...


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fwiw - i dnt think he "could well have air or turned a weaker hand into a bluff," and I think calling is very very bad here without info that:

a) he is capable of floating w/ air
b) he is capable of turning weak hands into a bluff

Even with both those facts, I still fold most of the time, as after we check turn, most of villains range will have sdv against ours.  Its not like villain thinks the J is a scare card.  I also dnt think villain bets 6k into 7800 for value w/ anything worse than a set.

pokerpops:
This is a $5 30 man on bf - not my normal game but I thought I"d have a whirl at a few.

No real reads on villain


I"m always interested in the concept of PF raises in tournaments and I guess that the consensus these days is 2.4/2.5x?

I"ll adjust

noble1:
which is why i asked if David had any sort of read :) because tbh if i was in villains seat this is the sort of stunt i"d pull when playing lowish buy ins against players playing in a weak manner, if i had any sort of read that he checks a lot of his air range/ over cards etc after cbetting then i"m firing out on this scary board , do u think if most randoms checked the turn would they fold 50% of the time on the river??

yep in the play it solid world, i agree fold..

Marty719:

--- Quote from: noble1 on October 07, 2010, 13:45:15 PM ---
which is why i asked if David had any sort of read :) because tbh if i was in villains seat this is the sort of stunt i"d pull when playing lowish buy ins against players playing in a weak manner, if i had any sort of read that he checks a lot of his air range/ over cards etc after cbetting then i"m firing out on this scary board , do u think if most randoms checked the turn would they fold 50% of the time on the river??

yep in the play it solid world, i agree fold..

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i think bet-sizing w/ air on river is usually different usually than 6k into 7800-- w/ given stack sizes.  

noble1:
exactly why i get alot of folds then :)

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