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Cash Game Hand on Betfair - I have QQ.

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Waz1892:
I did think afterwards that my Pf bet was a little shy.

I checked the turn in case he had the ace so I didn"t stack off, as anything he bets I will prob have to call anyway.

so continung the hand

RIVER [board cards: AS,AC,AD,JC,8D ]
Waz1974 bets $3, mrPrat0309 raises to $6, Waz1974 calls $6.

Thoughts on my play (be gentle, I"m still learning) and what does he have now?

After the river I will share further thoughts and seek comments as I want to learn from better players.  AMRN has already touched I something that I think is maybe a leak in my game - in that I should really be stacking off in this type of hand.

Mikeyboy9361:

--- Quote from: AMRN on November 25, 2010, 23:00:35 PM ---
When you consider that you have 3-bet to 11x preflop, and have two callers, the table must be pretty fishy. Therefore, why check the turn? If your hand was good in the flop, nothing changed on the turn..... you were called on the flop, and it kind of stands to reason that you will get called again on the turn. Checking here is just missed value.

c-bet again on the turn - $6 is about right to keep him interested with an underpair, and sets the pot at just the right value for you to be able to ship the rest in on the river and make it a mandatory call for him.

If he has quad aces - suck it up, I reckon you are supposed to stack off in this spot.

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Agree with this.

You"re always gonna call that raise on the river, and if he has an ace or pocket Kings then so be it.

Foggy:

--- Quote from: Waz1892 on November 26, 2010, 08:58:20 AM ---
I did think afterwards that my Pf bet was a little shy.

I checked the turn in case he had the ace so I didn"t stack off, as anything he bets I will prob have to call anyway.

so continung the hand

RIVER [board cards: AS,AC,AD,JC,8D ]
Waz1974 bets $3, mrPrat0309 raises to $6, Waz1974 calls $6.

Thoughts on my play (be gentle, I"m still learning) and what does he have now?

After the river I will share further thoughts and seek comments as I want to learn from better players.  AMRN has already touched I something that I think is maybe a leak in my game - in that I should really be stacking off in this type of hand.

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Checking the turn has only given him a chance of a free card. He could hold a king in which case you have caused your own demise.
In all probability you were in front pre flop, so keep betting on all streets. If he has the Ace then it"s a cooler, but in the same situation all my money is going in IMO

Fatcatstu:
As said, i bet the turn roughly 110% of the time, about 7 dollars, and then ship all in over the top of his cack arsed min raise if i am honest with you, if you lose in this spot, its just UL really, reload and go for it again.

mulen:
hi :)

You have to 3bet a bit more here in my opinion.. and please bet the turn for value all day.. its so unlikely that you are beaten and it nearly impossible that your opp will c/r bluff you here so just keep betting.. you get a lot of value from all pairs which is a big part of his range here.. and even if opp has an ace / FH here ( which is very unlikely ) he will probably just call and then check on the river too.. so if you really afraid of the ace you can check back on the river too..

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