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noble1:

--- Quote ---I don"t agree that you shouldn"t feel you have to protect your blinds in a cash game
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--- Quote ---obvious if someone is stealing alot, then widen that 3bet range, the range i"d do it would depend on how often villain is folding to 3bets, to cbets, reads, what my image is etc etc...
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--- Quote ---rest of the hand seems fine
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look at board texture, what is your plan if re-raised on the flop or turn?, what is the plan if villain bets the river? [any size 1/2 pot upwards?] when looking at the texture what hand does shoz represent here? oop and no reads except villain steals 60%, nothing about how he plays post-flop or how he plays in position, yet u think it is fine? please explain why u think it is fine? expand and enlighten please.....

Marty719:
"as played" were the words left out noble - "rest of the hand seems fine as played"

Obv we would like to narrow his range p/f by 3b"n larger (3b"n this small oop with any of ur range is a mistake imo), but once we get to the flop like this I don"t see how we can play it better. 

We bet flop for value. 

Once villain calls, we go for pot-control on the turn and river.  This also allows villain to barrell some of his draws and his random floats.  I can"t see a more profitable turn line.  Think it goes x/c>>>b/f>>>x/r>>>b/c>>>c/f

Without writing an essay with lots of quotes from ppl playing a lot higher than NL50...once we 3b pre, what do u think is a more profitable line for the rest of the hand?

ps - i missed u wen u wer away...

pps - I also think c/c flop is ok to induce.  Pretty close between this and leading imo, esp if villain has aggro flop tendancies.

Swinebag:

--- Quote from: Marty719 on January 13, 2011, 15:00:13 PM ---

We bet flop for value. 

Once villain calls, we go for pot-control on the turn and river.

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That was what I meant

AMRN:
all good to me, except the 3-bet sizing.... what were you hoping to achieve by 3-betting? With Q6, I think the objective should be to make him fold pre, but you gave the pot odds that pretty much forced him to call with atc.

Pitchie:
Is there anyone else that thinks raising 60% of button"s isn"t that aggressive?

I just can"t help think that 80% ish is more in the region of an aggressive button. I"m not taking anything away from your play as you assessed he was being aggressive in your opinion and you acted on it accordingly. However, I"m not sure I"d be 3 betting a 60% button with Q6os. I think I"d personally be looking for something that plays a bit better should I get called (Q10s, J10s, KQ, etc).

As the hand plays though, I"d just reiterate what everyone else has said. 3b higher pre. Like the pot control on turn and river with the marginal holding.

Paul.

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