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TT in SB facing CO ai and btn call
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on January 18, 2011, 22:48:50 PM ---
3) I know Brendan"s view on this hand. ;)
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TBH Leigh, I posted this interesting spot* simply because I was sufficiently doubtful about my initial intuitive view as to the correct option. So actually, I don"t know Brendan"s view on the hand ???
*From the assured stance taken by Gareth, I suspect he thinks its not at all interesting and rather a trivial call.
Chipaccrual:
--- Quote from: TheSnapper on January 18, 2011, 23:05:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on January 18, 2011, 22:48:50 PM ---
3) I know Brendan"s view on this hand. ;)
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TBH Leigh, I posted this interesting spot* simply because I was sufficiently doubtful about my initial intuitive view as to the correct option. So actually, I don"t know Brendan"s view on the hand ???
*From the assured stance taken by Gareth, I suspect he thinks its not at all interesting and rather a trivial call.
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I actually think it"s a very interesting spot. There"s a certain amount of emotion in the decision aswell, having watched most of the play before this point.
All joking aside, as I said to you at the time, I"m not sure I"m making the call, although I can understand the reasons the guys have given.
I used to be indecisive, now I"m not so sure. I might have flipped a coin to make the decision, as I actually think it is that close a decision to make.
I don"t think that has helped in any way. Usual from me then. ;D
TheSnapper:
Mikeyboy9361:
TBH, ICM amd Poker Stove aside, I am calling here, I hope that they each have one of each others outs, I am CL and even if I lose I am still very much in the game, if I win I am massive CL and would hope to TID from that position. Pocket 10"s five handed you are ahead most of the time, so call ! Thats the scientific view! ;)
Swinebag:
--- Quote from: TheSnapper on January 18, 2011, 22:40:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Swinebag22 on January 18, 2011, 22:12:13 PM ---
I"m pretty sure there are numbers to be crunched here and an ICM calculation will say "fold" or "call". My gut says it will be close.
ICM doesn"t really come into this here because you don"t get into this spot enough times for the correct decision to benefit you in the long run.
However I quickly stoved
any pair, AT+ and KQ for C/o
88+ AT+ KJ+ for btn
and TT had about 37% equity (If I was sat down I"d have imagined about 40% to be honest)
This is enough for me to call off 40% of my stack to risk getting into the medals with approx 70% of the chips in play and so much up top for winning.
But I think you just have to make these calls at the end of a tourney with shallow stacks if you are shooting for the win. I"d struggle to imagine better spots that would crop up.
These stacks dont allow for much 3 bet bluffing so you need to pick up hands and get them to hold. TT does the trick here for me
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You give a wider range for the tight btn to call ai than I would Rob, I was thinking something like TT+,AQs+,AQo+
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It was maybe a bit wide for a tight player. I just took my calling range there and snipped a few more hands off. I just can"t imagine any player who has 10 bigs and is the short stack wanting to fold 99
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