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River Value Shove vs unknown
Marty719:
He had K3 and called pretty quick irl. Doesnt really mean anything tho. Still not sure about if this will be a profitable shove vs an unknown. Have my doubts.
Swinebag:
That"s a staggering call from villain. Puts out a probe bet on the river - gets an answer, but calls anyway.
Against an unknown this is still probably a call
Marty719:
The thing that makes me still want to push is the fact that people do not like to blocker-bet/fold, and often level themselves into calling with worse. He should not be betting so small with a flush as it is obvious I have sdv, and river is a scare card. He should be v/betting as much as he thinks I will call with flushes, so this 1/3 pot bet doesnt make sense. He could be inducing but it doesnt look like a good spot, esp when we have no history.
One thing I would say is, in general....blocker-bet/folding is not a good idea, as people play pretty badly against them.
noble1:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on March 09, 2011, 12:48:41 PM ---
The thing that makes me still want to push is the fact that people do not like to blocker-bet/fold, and often level themselves into calling with worse. He should not be betting so small with a flush as it is obvious I have sdv, and river is a scare card. He should be v/betting as much as he thinks I will call with flushes, so this 1/3 pot bet doesnt make sense. He could be inducing but it doesnt look like a good spot, esp when we have no history.
One thing I would say is, in general....blocker-bet/folding is not a good idea, as people play pretty badly against them.
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i"m not quite sold on your theorem that people do not like to block bet fold, bad players yes, good players no...
but on the flipside a good player will understand the general idea/theory behind river blocker bets [dont make them to small :) although that can depend on the style of the opponent] so your point on his bet sizing makes sense...
if you had included/made reference to villains OPR stats in the post then you may of got some different feedback imo..
ps - include pot totals in post, i get confused adding up :)
PantsMan:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on March 09, 2011, 12:30:18 PM ---
He had K3 and called pretty quick irl. Doesnt really mean anything tho. Still not sure about if this will be a profitable shove vs an unknown. Have my doubts.
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Wow!
Still not liking the shove but obviously worked out here. Love to know what he put you on. Although i"m guessing the answer is, he didn"t. Ace King maybe?
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