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KK - Part III
RioRodent:
--- Quote from: Kinboshi on December 18, 2007, 14:27:18 PM ---
OK, everyone"s favourite hand - KK.
Our hero is in an APAT National, it"s early doors, in fact it"s the first level and the blinds are still 25/50.
Our Hero looks down to see ks kh, and they"re second to act.
Hero raises to 175.
That"s probably fairly standard? Anyone play that differently here?
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Whilst it is 3.5 BBs, 175 doesn"t make much of a dent in 10k chips and if you get a caller or two in the next couple of seats , then you are likely to end up with late positions and blinds calling with any two pretty cards. If I"m open-raising from early with this hand I would make it 250-300 to try and chase off the Ace/rags and raggy connectors... Or I may limp/raise.
--- Quote from: Kinboshi on December 18, 2007, 14:27:18 PM ---
Someone in middle position calls. Then the cut-off re-raises to 500 to play.
Our hero then re-raises to 1,500.
Do you like the re-raise? If you don"t, why not? If you do, what are you trying to achieve?
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I probably just call and see a flop.
--- Quote from: Kinboshi on December 18, 2007, 14:27:18 PM ---
Middle position then calls.
The cut-off then re-raises to 5,000.
What do you do now?
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Dwell up... Umm & Ahh a bit and then Fold muttering something along the lines of "F**king pocket Jacks, I hate them!!"
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: RioRodent on December 18, 2007, 20:42:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kinboshi on December 18, 2007, 14:27:18 PM ---
Do you like the re-raise? If you don"t, why not? If you do, what are you trying to achieve?
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I probably just call and see a flop.
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I think you"re right with this here. I call and the explanation I"ve seen from some "good" players convinces me it"s the right thing to do. Interestingly, my reasoning for doing so wasn"t exactly the same as theirs!
UKChamp:
I go with the call initially too. The re-raise gives you information, but with only one hand beating you do you need to raise the value of the pot so early? Also, and most importantly, what hand can you beat that can call this re-raise? Its negative EV for sure. Furthermore should it be called you are out of position for the rest of the hand.
One of the fundamentals of poker is having your bets with strength called by waeker hands. If the bet can never be called by a weaker hand then its an error to bet in the first place.
By raising you also give away the strength of your hand, not something you ideally want to do, flat calling still gives you some range to represent and hopefully get paid off with.
dirama:
I would play it exactly the same as Hero but fold to the 5000 bet . It is still just the Ist level and there will be other opportunities to go all in with KK in the later stages of the tourney.
nosey-p:
I must be a rubbish live player because I would be all in :D
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