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Dan Owsten put me in a tricky spot early in APAT Cardiff. Thoughts on this?

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deanp27:
I"d probably cold 4 given positions at the table or fold if I wasn"t comfortable, our relative position in the hand is terrible to just flat the 3 bet and I think this is the worst option pre. His 4 bet sizing is quite curious with the 3 bettor left to act but don"t know Dan well enough to know whether he has weak hands in his 4 betting range. Once I call the 4 bet and the flop I aren"t folding.

Foggy:
Probably playing 6-3 o/s which I believe is one of his favourite hands

I Q8Holds I:
I dont think anyone is really restealing at 25/50, you obviously get a few but you said the Sb was quite tight and hadn"t seen him 3bet once, He may only be 3betting JJ+ +AK +AQ  [maybe not aq and jj]. Youv"e got 200bb"s i think i fold pre and fold to 4bet as playe, even if it is that fish.

deanp27:

--- Quote from: deanp27 on June 07, 2011, 16:02:49 PM ---
I"d probably cold 4 given positions at the table or fold if I wasn"t comfortable, our relative position in the hand is terrible to just flat the 3 bet and I think this is the worst option pre. His 4 bet sizing is quite curious with the 3 bettor left to act but don"t know Dan well enough to know whether he has weak hands in his 4 betting range. Once I call the 4 bet and the flop I aren"t folding.

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Scrap what I said, thought we were only 60bb deep, fold pre is best

PantsMan:

--- Quote from: I Q8Holds I on June 07, 2011, 21:15:24 PM ---
the Sb was quite tight and hadn"t seen him 3bet once, He may only be 3betting JJ+ +AK +AQ  [maybe not aq and jj].

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It was Steve Redfern in the SB, 3 betting Dan"s button raise. I"d say both of there ranges include a lot lower hands than "JJ+ +AK +AQ". Although the original poster may not know them!

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