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Swinebag:
On a slightly different theme (but not a thread-jack).....

What is the ruling if in a live game a player finds himself allin and the other 2 verbally collude to check it down?

I"m pretty sure its a serious breach of the rules which should have a severe penalty.....but I"m not sure?

HaworthBantam:

ThePiranha:
yeah i have had my wrist slapped before, i got a warning, but to be fair, i never really realised hat what i was doing is in a way collusion until i thought about it later.

I run poker nights across the area and since this warning i have become a lot firmer on people verbally agreeing to check down a pot.

Its not an issue that will get you ejected from a tournament but take every care to make sure that what you say to another player isnt collusio. Why have unneccesary greif right?

Hope this helps

kinboshi:

--- Quote from: ThePiranha on December 29, 2007, 19:56:41 PM ---
nah this is definately bad play in my opinion. If i was the other person calling the raise, 1 reason why i would be calling the raise is because i would be trying to knock somebody out so i would probably be giving you the same abuse as this guy did lol.
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If you called in this position to knock out a player when there are still over 100 runners in the competition, then I"d raise to get you off the hand, as it would mean you haven"t got a strong hand, and I want the chips.  Getting hold of more chips is far more important to me than reducing a 100+ field by one runner.

Also, giving anyone abuse for playing a hand the way they want to play it is wrong.  They"ve paid their money, the chips are theirs to do what they want with them.  Why give them abuse?

Seriously, people who think that implicit collusion (which is what we"re talking about when we check it down to increase the chance of knocking someone out) is relevant at this stage of the tournament are just wrong.


--- Quote ---You will be doing yourself no favours by betting into small side pots with nothing because people often think you are inexperienced and you will probably get no respect later on in the comp and was probably why you ended up getting knocked out soon after

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If you were looking to check down a pot here, I"d say that would signify that you"re an inexperienced player - and I"d be very surprised if any seasoned pro would be looking to check down a pot here when there"s a chance they can bet out and increase their chances of winning the pot.

ThePiranha:
ok, find me 1 example, be it a video or anything where you have ever seen a succesful pro bet into a side pot with nothing and i will silence myself on this issue.

Fair enough??

Oh and this comp had 1600 runners in, so for it to be down to the last 100, id definately say that you were deep enough to be checking the pot down and trying to knock somebody out.

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