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Was this bad play?

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Maxriddles:

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Don"t let what someone says in the chat box (or at the table in a live game) put you off or adversely affect your game.  Wayne"s advice is good for those who do get worked up about what people say - switch the chat off.  I like to use it, but make sure that I don"t get upset by what people say. 

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Good point - I find the chat box can be very useful for assessing peoples mood and their skill level.

Poker is a game of incomplete information, if other players want to leak lots of information to you by what they say in the chat box then that is to your advantage.

Obviously if it does affect your play adversely then that benefit is going to be outweighed by the negative effect it has on your play so switch it off, but I would suggest the most profitable option is to find a way to not let it affect you.

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Couldn"t agree more about the benefits of keeping the chat box open, but ONLY if it doesn"t adversely affect your play. If it does upset or distract you it may be best for your game to close it down. Personally I often find it very useful and particularly enjoy when I can see that a couple of players at my table are letting this affect their game. 

As for the situation I may well even have folded pre flop after the only person at the table who can hurt me has already called. I may well have flat called but I would not have raised (unless knowledge of the player made me think he"d fold) as K, 10 (even suited) is not a hand I"d be calling a re-raise with.  

ThePiranha:
nah this is definately bad play in my opinion. If i was the other person calling the raise, 1 reason why i would be calling the raise is because i would be trying to knock somebody out so i would probably be giving you the same abuse as this guy did lol.

You will be doing yourself no favours by betting into small side pots with nothing because people often think you are inexperienced and you will probably get no respect later on in the comp and was probably why you ended up getting knocked out soon after

Jon MW:

--- Quote from: ThePiranha on December 29, 2007, 19:56:41 PM ---
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You will be doing yourself no favours by betting into small side pots with nothing ...

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I"d have to disagree with this.

Firstly the side pot was larger than the main pot, so it"s worth winning.

And because it was worth winning I think a significant number of players would agree that it was a perfectly valid play.

Obviously there will always be disagreement, but as long as you know which players are respecting your bets (and which aren"t) you can always turn that to your advantage

hi_am_chris:
Too early still to be bothered bout knocking someone out, id rather have the sidepot and him win a small main pot then him get knocked out and lose the side pot

CrizzyConnor:
Firstly, thanks to everyone for replying. I can see from reading that I maybe shouldn"t have been in the hand in the first place. It"s playing hand like K 10, KJ, JQ and AJ that usually get me into trouble. I still see myself as definitely learning the game... I"ve only recently started folding aforementioned trouble hands UTG and in early position when a friend told me I probably shouldn"t play them from here and I have noticed myself get into much less trouble since. I personally figured my hand was decent for a raise against one flat call of the big blind and me in the place directly before the button. I also figured that the small blind would have a good chance of being dealt garbage but would still have to go all in - which was my reasoning behind the raise.

I also subscribe to the unwritten rule of checking it round when it is one pot (no substantial side pot) and when a move up the money etc is likely if a player is knocked out...

Maybe my biggest mistake like many of you said was playing the hand in the first place. I know it"s because I"m just a beginner and I know it"s wrong a lot of times but I find it"s hard to lay down a hand if both cards are suited and above 9 (J10, Q10, QJ, KQ, KJ etc). I"ve started to be able to fold cards like QJ in early position like I mentioned before so maybe in future I wont get myself into pots like this and wont have to worry about being taunted.

Thanks to everyone who took the time to read and reply. I prefer playing live to playing on the net so i"ll hopefully see some of you at APAT events next year (I"m hoping to make it to the Scottish Amateur in May next year!)...

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