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JJ in late position
George2Loose:
All seems fine to me. WP
deanp27:
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--- Quote from: deanp27 on November 07, 2011, 16:42:46 PM ---
So for those that want to 3bet pre vs an utg supposedly tight open, what do you if you get 4bet?
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So you wouldnt 3 bet in late position, what would you 3 bet with? Ks or As?
Personally I would 3 bet here 100% in position. Would rather 3 bet and then play the streets aggresively than check down and let them get there.
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I probably 3bet a reasonably high amount generally, for someone playing APAT. However 3betting and putting all my 70bbs in pre vs a tight utg open is unlikely to see me in good shape. 3betting and folding seems a real waste too. Flatting in position keeps in his dominated hands and hides the strength of our holding and is easily best here IMO.
Yes we have jacks in late position, but we face an utg open. I will probably flat queens and Ak here to fwiw
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: PHIL_TC on November 07, 2011, 17:42:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: deanp27 on November 07, 2011, 16:42:46 PM ---
So for those that want to 3bet pre vs an utg supposedly tight open, what do you if you get 4bet?
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So you wouldnt 3 bet in late position, what would you 3 bet with? Ks or As?
Personally I would 3 bet here 100% in position. Would rather 3 bet and then play the streets aggresively than check down and let them get there.
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For lots on whether to 3 bet or not, read this thread
Swinebag:
Don"t think this is butchered at all. I play it the same way pre and post flop. Maybe betting the turn is better than checking back. Given how little you have now invested and that you are so under repped, I"m pretty sure you call the river bet.
TheSnapper:
Flatting pre is fine with jd jc.
On the :2h: td kd flop, its quite a wet flop and there are"nt any hands in his range that will call a bet, of the hands that missed the flop, AJ, AQ have gssd and 1 over and likely fold, ad1 qd never folds and is a 55/45 favourite versus jd jc
On the :2h: td kd 6d turn, we can squeeze some value now from AJ+ any diamond combos which now have gssd and fd. These hands can call a bet and folding them out is ok for us too since we steal their considerable 33% equity when they fold. A bet of 350+ denies villain the correct odds to call. These hands cannot call a bet on the river unless they get there so you can only extract value with a must bet on the turn.
As played you have to call the river bet but will sometimes pay off the two outer"d 66,77 and sometimes a well played KQ.
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