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JJ in late position

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noble1:
hmmm ok i was gonna leave this alone as soon as i saw HEM stats :)  
right 63 hands is not a large sample as i"m sure u know David, about the only info i"d take from it is the gap between the vpip and the pfr..
so a general basic loose read i"d take from that sample is that villain is tight passive [possibly]
loosely giving him a range i"d give a 10% vpip (approx) a range which could be made up of Pairs, BWs and SC (11.3%), or u could assign the upper half of Pairs, BW and SC (99+/AJ+/KJ+/T9s-76s) for approx 10% or other combinations..

as a basic guide i would assign and break down a std range like this below -
Pairs - 5.88%
Axs - 3.62%
BWs - 3.01%
SC- 2.41%
SC1 Gap - 2.11%
Axo - 10.9%
BWo - 9.04%
UnSC - 7.24%

as u get experienced using the HUD stats and playing different player types u can narrow and expand each category.. edit - eg - SC2 Gap - 2.4% , Kxs - 2.4% etc etc....
a little bit of analysis and pokerstove are required to get better and fine tune how u narrow player ranges, as a rule of thumb use the 13x rule to assign hand combinations to the vpip"s - so a 10% range will have approx 10x13 combinations = 130 , 20% will have 20x13 = 260 combi"s etc etc ... this will help u break down post flop situations where u can work out how much of villains range will connect with the board texture...

hopefully u"ll find the above helpful and it will give u some ideas, u still have to know how to use the info though to best exploit it, obv the player position and how the table dynamic at the time needs to be taken into account etc etc so u need to play a lot and hopefully bits and pieces will drop into place....

imho learning the concepts and theory in poker is far more important than using a HUD, but if this is the way u wanna go then make sure u learn to exploit whatever stat u pick up on [and be bloody good at it :)]

noble1:
general titbits -

u can learn various things from this, the stat 10/5 suggested tight passive, he was checking to u even though he had the initiative on the flop and then again on the turn... u had position and never reacted to it, bet fold versus these types is a gr8 line dont u think?
what else can u take from it? he didn"t cbet his air, why? will he do this a lot? can u exploit this? what sort of level of thinking would u put him on, level1 level2 etc etc, look at his river bet, what was going through his mind? what was he putting u on to hope u paid him off? how did he perceive your range? was he even thinking about it or his own?
always try to get an idea of your opponents level of thought, then just adjust 1 level up....

as for 3bets, there are many a way to play, your own style, the opponent style of play, how they perceive u and a multitude of other things need to be taken into account...
me in general will default to 3betting, thats me and my basic style, why? because at these sort of stack sizes players mis use implied odds imho, thats my personal view.. i prefer to 3bet because it will make decisions as simple as possible for me and as hard as possible for my opponents whilst retaining large amounts of implied odds and fold equity for myself.. but i base this default strategy on my style of play...
its alright to flat call to, but are u doing it to only set mine? how often is the villain cbetting, what are u going to do on a AXX flop and he cbets? does he even stack off light? how often does he double barrel? etc...
is he the type who will only give action when he has 2pair or better? if so is flatting JJ such a gr8 idea now? say he perceives u tight and u 3bet, he has QQ and chooses to flat, the flop comes down AXX he checks, who is most likely to win the pot now? who is making the mistake? u both have AK, he opens u 3bet he calls, flop is 289 - who is most likely to win the pot?
there are many more variables, but its far to simplistic and general to say never 3bet XX , be flexible.... in general if your hand is above your oppo"s top 1/2 of there opening range from whatever position, then i"d argue u will profit more by 3betting....

meh far to variables and ifs and buts :) meh poker lol its about feeling how your opponent is playing, and figuring out whats the best way to play against it... don"t u think? the next level of this is very simple... people begin to figure out what you are doing and adjust... well some do :) depends what level and stake u are playing....

pokerpops:

--- Quote from: noble1 on November 10, 2011, 17:00:49 PM ---

The truth about poker?

meh far to variables and ifs and buts :) meh poker lol its about feeling how your opponent is playing, and figuring out whats the best way to play against it... don"t u think? the next level of this is very simple... people begin to figure out what you are doing and adjust... well some do :) depends what level and stake u are playing....


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so many posts half-written and deleted that I think I need to have a lay down and leave this for a while.

I"ve learnt from the thread and I"m happy that, in the exact same circumstances doing exactly the same is fine, I"m also happy to say that if Bluen0se raises utg and I have TT+ in late position it is more than likely that I"ll raise

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