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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2015, 13:25:38 PM »

The problem APAT will have if reducing to 6 players per team will be that even more teams will apply. This event is the one APAT event that could theoretically get >300 runners easily (apart from the Worlds obv) and as such, should be held in a venue that can hold that capacity.






Perhaps both my suggestions then.. Reduce teams to 6 and hold it in a venue that can hold 300 runners 50 teams of 6..
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2015, 14:22:16 PM »
You"ve got to be really careful in reducing the size of the teams, as it potentially could result in the individual winner of the event effectively winning it for their team.

Ideally, I"d like to see teams back at 10 people, with everyone getting a team in.  Makes the winning team needing to get 2/3 of their team deep in the event to win it.

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2015, 14:34:44 PM »
I dont like the idea of this really.

I can see WHY you might do it, but the whole idea of the team event is to play it as a TEAM, and splitting the teams up just wont be the same IMO.
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2015, 14:52:02 PM »
Agree with the majority sentiment that splitting teams to play over multiple days goes against what most people feel this even should be about, so definitely wouldn"t want to see that.

If sufficient capacity cannot be found to host all/most of the teams who want to enter, what about teams having to qualify online in some way? I know this means that some teams would still be excluded from the live event (as they are now), but at least every single team which wanted to enter would have a shot. How you wanted to structure this could vary, either straight satellites yielding the required number of team spots, or some format (league or otherwise) whereby stacks can be carried through, or even redistributed amongst team members to some limited extent (maybe averaged?), you get the idea.

Alternatively, rather than splitting teams across two Day 1"s, what about splitting the field, but keeping teams together? I know this could obviously create some "unfairness" if many of the perceived tougher teams are in one day, but if it"s a random draw, then it is what it is... Would allow capacity to be significantly increased and also keep all team members playing in the same Day 1...

Just my thoughts anyway, whatever happens I know I"d personally be gutted if I wasn"t able to compete in this event, outside of the Worlds, it"s the one APAT I would never want to miss, so I understand wanting to give as many people the opportunity as possible.

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2015, 16:12:02 PM »

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2015, 18:26:17 PM »
Can there not be a way teams that finish in such a place guarentee their entry into next years tournament with so many spaces left available for an online qualifier?

The qualifier could be for new teams and evens "b" teams with a rule to say that anybody who qualifies in this for example in a "B" team must then play for the team they qualified with ... otherwise it would then be open for abuse for a clubs best players to then try and win a second spot for their club.

Adding in a "relegation" would also keep things interesting for longer as clubs would want to ensure their entry into the following years event rather than have to rely on a qualifier?

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2015, 22:49:22 PM »
I"ll do a quick re-cap of the comments to date and let you know the general overall feeling regarding splitting Day 1  ;D

That"s that done - a big thank you for all your thoughts - safe to say we won"t be splitting Day 1  ;)

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2015, 15:26:55 PM »
Just a thought if not already mentioned.

What about 2 flights in the same day; eg 30 teams flight 1. 30 teams flight 2

You could even overlap the flights so the end time isnt too late?

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2015, 15:57:12 PM »


If we have 3 days, can we not just run it as a 3 day comp? Change it to £60+£10 pp (so the casino gets the juice needed to make it viable) and have

Day 1 (7pm-1am no breaks)
Day 2 as norm
Day 3 as norm?
surely all players would need to get same game time, maybe whoever left from day 1a joins 1b at a later stage on saturday, maybe after dinner break or something


I meant the whole field plays Day 1, stops at 1am them comes back for Day 2
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2015, 17:23:14 PM »
Sorry for late feedback, but better late than never etc.. Consensus amongst THMF/PokerMob is very similar, we could do the split but would prefer not to. Not only would it change the dynamic, but those playing 2nd flight could be on the back foot straight away if the first players all failed to make any points. Fair play trying to accommodate more players, but you have a brilliant event and it doesn"t need changing imo.

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2015, 07:39:59 AM »



If we have 3 days, can we not just run it as a 3 day comp? Change it to £60+£10 pp (so the casino gets the juice needed to make it viable) and have

Day 1 (7pm-1am no breaks)
Day 2 as norm
Day 3 as norm?
surely all players would need to get same game time, maybe whoever left from day 1a joins 1b at a later stage on saturday, maybe after dinner break or something


I meant the whole field plays Day 1, stops at 1am them comes back for Day 2


The issue is the number of tables/dealers available restricting the number of teams
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2015, 09:28:28 AM »


The issue is the number of tables/dealers available restricting the number of teams



This is the heart of the matter. Finding venues that can host, say, 300 runners is pretty hard, especially at the price level that APAT is, rightly, renowned for.
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2015, 13:03:54 PM »

Just a thought if not already mentioned.

What about 2 flights in the same day; eg 30 teams flight 1. 30 teams flight 2

You could even overlap the flights so the end time isnt too late?


Apologies for late response; I"m definitely against the propsal in the OP  & not keen on reducing to 6 man teams either, but i do think this suggestion is workable at the right venue!

How many levels/what is the total time for the current day 1 structure?

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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2015, 14:20:57 PM »

How many levels/what is the total time for the current day 1 structure?


It usually runs to the normal APAT Main Event Structure with around 12/13 levels over 12 hours from 2.30pm on the Saturday.
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Re: Season 9 UK Team Championship
« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2015, 14:36:50 PM »
Hey guys, again thanks for your feedback - no need to take it further though as we won"t be splitting the event and it will run as per previous years - 15k stack, 45 min clock, all teams/players starting at the same time which I expect to be 14:30 on Sat - hopefully we"ll have all details of the Season 9 tour confirmed this weekend at the latest.
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