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How not to play JJ??
EMing:
Simply
Against raises unless you have position play jd jh like 6c 6d and fold if you miss. You will save a lot more than you lose
Ming the Simple
Santino67:
Hi Ross, hope life"s good mate and I"ll get a chance to catch up with you at The Vic
Here"s my tuppence worth - You raised pre-flop and Theodora then called you, At this point I think I may have become concerned about their previous under the gun limp........you were still ahead, but I"d still be suspicious. Jacks are horrible cards, do you limp, raise, over-bet??? IMO having lost too many times with them I believe it"s better to try and keep it cheap.
The biggest problem is that there are very few flops you"ll be happy to see, so keeping it cheap should make it easier to throw them away. Unfortunately the flop you got looked too good. You have an over-pair to the board plus an up & down straight draw............but on the other hand there are so many draws out there. Given that Theodora bet 300 into a 390 pot, you"re now looking at a pot that"s bigger than it should be and too tempting to let go of. A flat call would still have left you with close to a thousand chips and position to see what Theodora would"ve done on the river.
TopPair2Pair:
My Hooks got busted in a live MMT the other day as well... I see a reoccuring theme here!
I am probably the worst person to give out advice but regarding the original hand I would say if your are going to play from the sb then you gotta be prepared to use it to your advantage and lead out with it. piddle in the breeze and see if your sneakers get coated!
if your out of position then your out of position you cant get up and swap seats with anyone but you can act first, and I personally prefer acting first shrewdly in this scenario. Its not something I would do often at the level you mentioned but its something I personally would considering the flop came low I had over pairs and I didn"t think the fella had premium pockets...
Okay i"ll go to sleep now before ppl start abusing my logic!
ThinkerJE:
I don"t mind the call with JJ, you are out of position and have put him on a premium hand. What you are hoping for is to hit your set. I also like your feeler bet when the board comes all rags, however when he raises you must figure him for AA or KK. Now you have to hit a jack to go ahead. You asked the question but failed to listen to the answer. Its a fold now, you have only done about 1,200 of you stack and you still have lots of chips left at this stage of the tournament. The problem with calling the raise is what do you do on the turn if you don"t hit your jack? No need to get too involved with your chips at this stage with blinds only 100-200.
noble1:
1st situation live play
there are different ways of playing this situation.but what i"d suggest to you is develop a little more aggression, JJ is a top 5 starting hand facing a utg raiser [depending on your read on him] you are out of position so calling imo is weak , a raise pre flop is 1st taking control of the hand and also you are getting info on what the utg villians likely holdings are, a smooth call by him and now the chances of a bigger pair are not so high.
The flop is a good for you , the bet of 2/3 pot is also ok but he min raises ?? on a 2 suit flop to me smells just over cards [feeling you out !!] if he had a big pair he would jam it up a lot more than a min raise [he could put you on a flush draw remember ] and also if he had 2 high overcards suited would he not make a bigger raise [strong flush draw and 2 overs not bad hand you know] and take the hand down on the flop !!
At this point on the flop I"d re-raise him back strong [take the pot down] because 1 i do not put him on a bigger pair and 2 also i"ve discounted the flush draw so what i am doing is protecting my hand against the chance of him hitting one of his over cards Ace king queen and if the donk wants to call here or reaise all in back, you are a 3/1 favourite to win the hand.
hope my thoughts on this situation help you in some way.
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