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ronaldo07:
Not going to Brighton but if I was I"d defo give it a go.

I reckon the rake taken at 9% in a 6 hour sesh would be around the £600 Mark if the pots are ave about £20 and 20-25 hands/hour

GL with this

Honeybadg:
Great idea - allow (a few) more re-buys??

Only starting 100BB"s deep.

I would drop the Grinder"s payment - you may create some odd incentives for the final table - if someone has built a mega stack by say 8.30pm they could dwell/fold their way to the £500.

Why not have 50 runners from start to finish - top profit wins a trophy?

Why kick out 40 runners after three hours?

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Paulie_D:
It"s always nice to see some innovation and I have no problem with a trial.

It"s not something I can see myself playing and for that reason I find it a shame that, if successful, this will replace the Side Events.

Yes, I know that, apart from DTD, they"ve nearly all been PLO but at least something other than NLHE is being offered. How are we to promote the spreading of other poker variants if we dump the side events in favour of what is, in effect, already being offered by the casino...to wit...a HE cash game?

The Side Events were a reason for me, and many others, to hang around on Sunday after, as usual, bombing out of the Main Event thus making the trip a little more value for money. It would be a BIG shame to see them go.

Notwithstanding that I won"t be partaking, I do find the idea of rake being taken in what is essentially a tournament somewhat disturbing. This looks like a definite money maker (ahem) for the Casino but -EV for the players.

I"m also disturbed by APAT charging a fee.

I"m assuming since APAT are taking the fee that this is not a mis-named casino fee (they"re already getting a GENEROUS rake FFS). If this is an APAT event it should be reg free....it"s the APAT ethos.

If it is a casino fee I think it would be more appropriate to increase this to a more standard % and cut the rake.

Like I said, I won"t be playing in this...I"ll be trying to get Side Event SNG"s off the ground...or at the bar. ;D

TheWagoon:
Real shame, always enjoyed the usual side events and was looking forward to the same at brighton :(

Will play this anyway I guess even though it doesn"t sound very good compared to the normal sides.

AAroddersAA:
I keep typing responses to this and reading them and thinking I sound so negative and like I am complaining. Well I have been pretty negative recently so maybe it"s the new me *lol*

I just don"t see the point in this. If you want a cash game, have a cash game. If you want a side bet on it so we have a winner then that"s cool as well. This whole concept just feels wrong though.

Firstly what if I lose half my stack, I will want to top up, does this count as my 1 rebuy? I actually tend to top up quite soon after going below starting stack, it"s +EV.

Secondly let"s say I think my edge over the field is 10BB/100 (I believe it to be less than that), but if it is then as we are only playing 100 hands (approx - most likely less) if we play our "normal" cash game we expect to lose to the grinder bet and reg fee. There is the chance to win the grinder bet of course but in reality people who gamble to try and get into the top 10 are going to push the people playing good solid poker out. There is an argument that this will create some +EV situations that would not otherwise exist.

The grinder bet is too large and brings in all sort of strange dynamics to the final table which do not really encourage good cash game play. For example I have to call a bet against the odds with a flush draw as there is another £500 on top of it and I cannot bet the flush draw off. Basic cash "rules" stop applying.

imo - have randomly drawn tables and just play a cash game for the full 7 hours or whatever it is with full cash game rules. Keep the blinds at 25p/50p and make the min buyin £50 and the max £100. Have a £5 grinder bet for the player who makes the most profit, maybe have a first and second prize, basically make this grinder bet worth a whole lot less, it should be a bonus not the most important thing. This might be a bit idealistic as I do not know how hard this would be to ploice with rebuys and top-ups and everything else.

Like I said don"t mean to come across as super negative and the game run as a trial sounds like fun, but as a tour I just don"t see it working too well.

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