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Cash Tour 2012
Delboy:
--- Quote from: pewpwagoon on December 20, 2011, 19:11:09 PM ---
The extra side event is what makes APAT events what they are; you bust the main you can have a laugh and play the side. Most will agree with me that they are traveling to APAT events to play TOURNAMENTS and NOT CASH games.
If I wanted to play some cash I would stay at home.
Its a shame there is not going to be a side event at Brighton; I hope this will not be the case for any future events.
Lukas
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The side events have only been going two years, so I would suggest that most people travel to APAT events for the one tournament. All other poker is a bonus. remember there is more to poker than tournies.
This Idea of Des seems a good way for tourny players to dip their toes in the waters of cash games without being bitten by too many sharks, and should be applauded imo.
pables:
I"m not knocking the idea, I would however knock my ability to play cash rationally :-[
Des:
Thanks for all the feedback so far everyone, which is excellent.
Two things.
1) Don"t worry about anything you say being perceived as negative. Ultimately this is a trial and highlighting issues is no bad thing right now. This format will not be for everyone, I"ll be the first to acknowledge that.
2) If the trial works; and one way or another I"m sure we"ll learn something from it, it is likely that we would promote the idea to higher end cash players with the objective of creating a destination series for them. In that scenario I don"t see any reason why we would not retain the APAT side event also. A busy casino on a Sunday is a win win for all.
Please remember, we"re in the business of trying to improve things for our players, not reduce your enjoyment. It"s a tough market and we appreciate your loyalty and custom. But we also have a record of innovation and a lot of the tours that exist in the UK today are as a result of APAT's innovation back in 2006. We are not owned by an online poker operator so cannot offer the large guarantees (we wouldn"t want to extend beyond two day events anyway), but we do enjoy being the first to identify and introduce a format; as we did with team games for example.
So right now, we"re planning to have some fun with this one and we"d like you guys to be excited about it to. It may only be a one off for you at these buy in levels, or indeed it might be canned after Brighton. Let"s give it a shot.
Des:
--- Quote from: Joker161 on December 20, 2011, 17:43:39 PM ---
I"m surprised at the £9 max for the rake. In Vegas you can sit down at a $1/$2 table with $300 and the rake will be the same 5%, but with a maximum of $5. Basically nearly every significant pot had a $5 rake.
I think a £5 max would be fairer, so any pot over £100 would have the same rake. I shouldn"t think there would be that many pots over £100 (perhaps towards the end - see above), so perhaps it wouldn"t make much difference. I can"t do the Maths off the top of my head, but how much of the total money on all tables will end up in the Dealers" trays? It was always disconcerting in Vegas, during a long cash session, how often the Dealer needed change for his/her tray. The stacks of $1 chips that appeared was essentially the rake for the last hour or so.
I agree with the points made above about table balancing (moving the smallest stake makes sense) and taking the top 10 stacks. Imagine being the 3rd highest stack, but the only two bigger stacks are on your table - gutted!
Sounds great. I"m almost looking forward to going out on Day 1!
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We would be using the casino"s standard rake structure, which Tighty has confirmed at 5% / max £9 per pot.
Des:
--- Quote from: ronaldo07 on December 20, 2011, 18:01:45 PM ---
Not going to Brighton but if I was I"d defo give it a go.
I reckon the rake taken at 9% in a 6 hour sesh would be around the £600 Mark if the pots are ave about £20 and 20-25 hands/hour
GL with this
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Thanks Iain.
5%!
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