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Pretty Common Spot, best way to play it?

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mporter123:
Am shoving Ax, all pairs, all broadways, lots of suited connectors. Include other hands like Kx suited dependent on when the blinds are up and how the table has been.

Steve - why no Ace Rag?

Paulie_D:

--- Quote from: mporter123 on June 29, 2012, 10:19:16 AM ---

Steve - why no Ace Rag?

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My guess is that he feels that with two limpers in front, any call of our Ax is likely to have us dominated.

dwh103:

--- Quote from: Paulie_D on June 29, 2012, 10:26:01 AM ---

--- Quote from: mporter123 on June 29, 2012, 10:19:16 AM ---

Steve - why no Ace Rag?

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My guess is that he feels that with two limpers in front, any call of our Ax is likely to have us dominated.

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It"d be a really unusual range if equity for A2o is lower than 87 suited. Almost always better to get it in with Ax.

mporter123:

--- Quote from: dwh103 on June 29, 2012, 10:37:43 AM ---

--- Quote from: Paulie_D on June 29, 2012, 10:26:01 AM ---

--- Quote from: mporter123 on June 29, 2012, 10:19:16 AM ---

Steve - why no Ace Rag?

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My guess is that he feels that with two limpers in front, any call of our Ax is likely to have us dominated.

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It"d be a really unusual range if equity for A2o is lower than 87 suited. Almost always better to get it in with Ax.

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Agree, limpers are just as likely to have suited pretty hands, small pairs, or just some random cards than an Ace that dominates us. Would need a pretty specific read to fold any Ace in this spot.

AAroddersAA:
As always some good replies.

Any aces is a shove here surely? Would be really interested to understand why Steve disagrees. I think you have a good chance of making them all fold which is why the shoving range is so wide. When you hold the ace it marginally reduces the chance that anybody has a hand that could call. You also always have a chance to hit the ace if you are called.

The hands I am not sure about are small pairs like 22-66 as the most likely hands to limp/call in this spot are some kind of pair. I was wondering if this is where Steve is coming from when he says shoving Ax might not be the best play as well?

My opinion is you take it down often enough to make all pairs and all aces a shove the same with SC"s and broadways.

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