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Play by Play - day by day
Fatcatstu:
All i would say is, so we raise pre, then they call. We are now out of position and hating our lives on nearly every flop yes?
noble1:
Flop - to cbet or check
assuming villain is at least thinking about what Rodders range is i.e we have a perceived range..
there is a strategy/theory you can use, not only should you look/think about your hand strength versus your oppo"s range but you should also consider what you think your perceived range is and where your actual hand fits within it..
if your actual hand is at the top end of your perceived range then on average your oppo won"t expect it to be as strong, so value betting is the best option mostly..
checking is an option when you think your oppo perceives your range to be stronger than it actually is, which would mean he"d mostly not call with weaker hands but you can get him to call worse or to bluff on later streets..
this is strategy best for level 2 plus type thinkers, given villains stack size and available stats it maybe likely he"s a typical 10nl reg who"s at least thinking about what Rodders may have..
another thing that Bren has touched upon, is what you consider villains pre-flop range to be, Bren has had a go and broken down that range so from an analysis point of view the next step could be to work out the EV of various cbet sizes and how many parts of his range call/raise or react etc...
consider all size bets from 1/3 psb to overbets and see what you come up with...
i hope this gets you thinking :)
dwh103:
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on January 05, 2013, 20:19:02 PM ---
Good post Dave. I think we are ready for the next action tbh I was going to leave it until tomorrow but we have had lots of discussion and the general consensus seems to be bet out strongly. So OK, Here Goes, it get more interesting here imo
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com
Hero (BTN): $37.67
SB: $42.41
BB: $5.10
UTG: $10.70
MP: $10.27
CO: $7.55
SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 3d 3h
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, fold
Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) 5h 3c Ah
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB raises to $1.90, Hero calls ???
OK, what does he have what are you doing what is your plan for future action?
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Breaking his range down:
Mediocre-weak or Air: Highly unlikely. Poor players may auto CR something like AQ/AJ, and chance of CR bluff with air is non-zero, but there"s no value in flatting to induce further action. This player"s stats do not suggest this line is likely and a call from the Hero will shut down Villain unless he outdraws us on the turn.
Therefore his range is heavily biased to monsters or a draw. I guess AK is a possibility, but the most unlikely.
Monsters: This includes 55 (3 combinations) and two pair (5 suited combos, 8 unsuited). If he never calls Axo or 53s (I"m assuming he folds 53o), and often slow plays AA, then you"re 3:2 against and this spot becomes really grim. I suspect the AA part at least is unrealistic, so at worse you"re a small favourite against his monster range, which suggests you should 3 bet here for value.
Draws: Worst case scenario is villain holds 64hh in which case you"re 59.8%. Most of the time you"ll have 75% equity. Keep raising.
The weaker end of his monsters should be a little concerned at a flop 3b, but holding bottom set makes top 2 the most likely holding he has. There"s a distinct lack of combo draw possibilities (esp given the Ace is a heart) so his most likely draw will be the bare flush draw. I"d be looking to raise an amount to commit the Villain if he 4bets, or make it easy for me to get significant money in on the turn and river. A pot raise would be to $6.40. If called the pot on the turn is $13.50 and a couple of 2/3 pot bets can get your stack in should you wish. This would be my starting point, though the worse the player the more I"m raising.
If he 4bets I 5bet jam, if he flats I give a greater weighting to a bare flush draw and then barf big time when the inevitable heart comes on the turn (or the board pairs).
Bigfella42:
Pesonally never checking this flop would bet three quarters pot or something similar. We need an opponent to have some type of potential with his hand but we"re almost certainly ahead and need to start to build the pot. Not sure what the point is of checking, I just dont get it.
Bigfella42:
--- Quote from: Fatcatstu on January 05, 2013, 23:46:01 PM ---
All i would say is, so we raise pre, then they call. We are now out of position and hating our lives on nearly every flop yes?
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No we are in position we"re on the button.
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