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WCOAP 2013 - Official Information Thread
Chipaccrual:
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--- Quote from: sharplea on February 05, 2013, 20:42:41 PM ---
For the ME - I think that"s the usual £75 structure. It"s £100 this time - can we have 20k instead of 15k?
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Agree. The worlds were 5K more than the national events previously to reflect the higher buy in. Just because we"re getting better value in the nationals now, doesn"t mean we don"t want better, better value in the wcoap lol.
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Any thoughts on this, guys?
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The structure is already spot on from a timing point of view for two day ones and final day. If we put another 33% of chips in play, this will add considerable time to the ultimate finish time, mostly because of the additional numbers brought back for the final day.
However we play about with starting stacks and levels, we have been running these for long enough now to have a very good understanding on timings.
Of course, if everyone promises not to play like the nittiest nits, we could give you all 50k to start and watch the carnage unfold ;)
Sugar_Free:
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on February 11, 2013, 22:57:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on February 11, 2013, 22:45:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sugar_Free on February 05, 2013, 22:14:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: sharplea on February 05, 2013, 20:42:41 PM ---
For the ME - I think that"s the usual £75 structure. It"s £100 this time - can we have 20k instead of 15k?
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Agree. The worlds were 5K more than the national events previously to reflect the higher buy in. Just because we"re getting better value in the nationals now, doesn"t mean we don"t want better, better value in the wcoap lol.
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Any thoughts on this, guys?
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The structure is already spot on from a timing point of view for two day ones and final day. If we put another 33% of chips in play, this will add considerable time to the ultimate finish time, mostly because of the additional numbers brought back for the final day.
However we play about with starting stacks and levels, we have been running these for long enough now to have a very good understanding on timings.
Of course, if everyone promises not to play like the nittiest nits, we could give you all 50k to start and watch the carnage unfold ;)
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With rebuys?
Chipaccrual:
--- Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on February 11, 2013, 21:39:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chipaccrual on February 11, 2013, 13:55:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: AceOnTheRiver on February 05, 2013, 18:16:27 PM ---
Well done APAT; this could be the best yet!!
Question regarding the Open event; Do you not think the structure is maybe a little shallow for such a relatively high buy in when compared to other events DTD run.
I appreciate its a late start and there"s a lot to cram in but can this be looked at?
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We"ve had a response back from DTD. They"ve had a look at the structure and run the numbers through. They predict it will run for around 9hrs with a 3am-4am finish. If anything, they would like to see a couple of levels removed, but I"d suggest we will leave it as it stands at the moment.
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Thanks Leigh, can"t do anything with the start time no?
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Struggling due to the number of tables earlier in the day as we have the 6 max and team event on.
Peter Thorpe:
1. Could it be the worlds has finally outgrown one day events? I understand completely that the mere thought of this is a logistical ballache but it looks fit to burst!
2. I"d agree the stud could do with tweaks (talking from experience here) but only minor ones, the idea of 10k stacks and all that is mental for a 1 day event...if they ever make these 2 day events then maybe...i like the idea of a button posting antes early on, but that seems more suited to the HORSE comp than anything else...like i dont think its possible to give stud any more legroom, last time we played deep into the night and had very little time left (that said hitting the level cap sucked, could do with maybe 1 or 2 levels more in the middle somewhere? Id have happily finished an hour later than having 15 big bets / 30 small bets on the entire table)
3. Omaha"s fine, no reason to change that all that much
4. HU as 128 runners would be sick, i agree that double the prize pool is all lovely...but thats 64 dealers on 32 tables...sure not impossible seeing as its on the "quietest" day...but my god that"d be a nightmare from just about everyone"s point of view...i agree with leigh, they"d have to effectively nuke the structure to make that fit!
5. The main event structure is perfectly fine, sure because its a £100 it should have a better structure but again your looking at time constraints, maybe adding levels would work better, give it its own structure? would that make people happier? perhaps...but the event looks fine as it is.
6. Where"s my shootout events! :D :D
Basically its poker players doing what they do best, asking for immense structures in infinitely short timeframes...but guys seriously, it looks time, next season...to MAYBE turn this into a week long affair? i understand why its a 5 day series completely...but worlds? surely that one could justify a week or even more?
Bedzilla:
--- Quote from: Peter Thorpe on February 14, 2013, 01:54:46 AM ---
1. Could it be the worlds has finally outgrown one day events? I understand completely that the mere thought of this is a logistical ballache but it looks fit to burst!
2. I"d agree the stud could do with tweaks (talking from experience here) but only minor ones, the idea of 10k stacks and all that is mental for a 1 day event...if they ever make these 2 day events then maybe...i like the idea of a button posting antes early on, but that seems more suited to the HORSE comp than anything else...like i dont think its possible to give stud any more legroom, last time we played deep into the night and had very little time left (that said hitting the level cap sucked, could do with maybe 1 or 2 levels more in the middle somewhere? Id have happily finished an hour later than having 15 big bets / 30 small bets on the entire table)
3. Omaha"s fine, no reason to change that all that much
4. HU as 128 runners would be sick, i agree that double the prize pool is all lovely...but thats 64 dealers on 32 tables...sure not impossible seeing as its on the "quietest" day...but my god that"d be a nightmare from just about everyone"s point of view...i agree with leigh, they"d have to effectively nuke the structure to make that fit!
5. The main event structure is perfectly fine, sure because its a £100 it should have a better structure but again your looking at time constraints, maybe adding levels would work better, give it its own structure? would that make people happier? perhaps...but the event looks fine as it is.
6. Where"s my shootout events! :D :D
Basically its poker players doing what they do best, asking for immense structures in infinitely short timeframes...but guys seriously, it looks time, next season...to MAYBE turn this into a week long affair? i understand why its a 5 day series completely...but worlds? surely that one could justify a week or even more?
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Just in regard to the last comment..... I totally agree. It seems a shame to call this the WCOAP when there is a cap on players and only running one day events (except the main). It seems like only the people who hear about the release are lucky enough to guarantee themselves a seat. Perhaps next time you can look into running 2 day events with bigger fields to really challenge people.
Having said that, well done for all of the organisational effort you have put in, don"t wish to seem ungrateful for your hard work..........just a thought.
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