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suzanne:
Have I mentioned that there has never been a game in the South West?  ;D

Bristol please x

Waz1892:
Des,  On the points you"ve raised as to find out members views - my thoughts opinions.

Buy ins - Stay at £75?  Increase?  Decrease?  Side events?
Perfect at £75

Festival style three and four day events - good? or too long?
event lengths I think are also just right, as most 3-4 days are over a bank holiday or easter type seasons, which while is "family" time fits with the extra time from work/school situ.  My only other point on times I refer to my previous comment in Day 2 should be an earlier start time.

Timing - An event every month, every two months, or four big festivals every year maybe?
I love every month, although I don"t make it every month, just having the option to have is good.  2nd option would be every 2 months.  4 APAT's per year seems like denying a child its breast milk!  :D

WCOAP - Should it extend further with the addition of two day side events and an even larger main event?
with 4 years behind it I think, again its spot on.   I have no idea on side events as I don"t play them to warrant the knowledge to comment on them and structures within.  Large main event sounds good, as close to a world Series as I"ll get, so yes please!

Team events - Should we invite multiple teams from same communities? structure?
As judged by the recent team event they are enough single communities that wish to play these that the need to have Team b, and c doesn"t seem right.  If space allows then yes sure - maybe on some kind of rota type thing.

Formats - Should we be looking to include anything new?  Should we run one of the nationals in a different format, outside of the WCOAP and ECOAP?
Anything new I think, personally should be done as a side event as the main nationals are the bread and butter of the Tour.

Registration - Thoughts on satellites, direct buy in via client, generic satellite packages versus specific satellite packages, should satellites packages include a contribution towards travel and hotel?
sats to nationals are good and allows everyone the chance, if the £75 is out of range, so you"re covering the whole of the membership at all times.  direct buy in through a poker client is good, as long as we don"t keep switching.  Purely through APAT, I"ve now got BlueSq, Betfair, 888, Whill, Genting and of course APAT.co.uk - all of which I rarely play on now (bar the last  ;))  Packages, how many people as a % would enjoy the hotel/travel aspect? would this attract more to the sats - which I assume is the aim?

Seat reservation - Should this continue?  If so, why?  If we added a Paypal button to enable players to pay the 10% fee upfront, would this work?  So players not taking up their reservation would lose the fee element of their buy in?
This is good for reg forum users, however (I"m assuming) the majority of the membership aren"t reg users, this counts them out so to speak.  Depends on what the aim is?  To drive more traffic to the site, or to make it easier for admin purposes.  The 10% downpayment would result in a smaller amount of pull outs you"d think, so if this is a headaches that needs resolving, then fine.  If not, then I don"t see the benefit.

Locations - Overseas?  New locations?  For example we could take the ECOAP to Western Europe.  Would players come, if destination was cheap and outside of holiday periods?
New locations always nice of course, but understand the limits in some places. 

Overseas - what is the aim? A chance for UK players to have a jolly few days out, or APAT brand awareness?

The few that go over seem to have a cracking time, so how can you deny them that.  From an APAT sense, its about brand awareness and spreading the word.  My question, therefore would be after the events in Europe, what is the take up on forum memberships from those countries?  or online new members on apat.co.uk?  And from a overall poker community sense, Does the casino that held it report a rise in new players?  If we don"t know, we should know surely, otherwise how do we know its works and is worth the cost/organisation

Commercial - To increase our budgets we might ask you to qualify for events at a third party site, or join us for a crazy night of blackjack or slots tournaments.  Is this acceptable, not acceptable, would stop you playing, etc?
don"t mind trying qualifying as such -only negative is you"re then separating the good players who will over the season always qualify, so while getting a high class of field for the event itself, it could become "elite-tist"?  
edit - re-read this bit, i would assume that if you don"t qualify then you"d still be able to buy in direct, so it wouldn"t be as above. Not keen on Blackjack/slots this is a POKER site/community/forum/tour

Awards - Further develop the medals?  More bracelets?  Differentiate between live and online event awards?  Added value?
3 medals is great.  you could look at a FT award of some sort?  these are tough tournaments, FT"s are not easy.  A Wooden-spoon type gesture to first out would be new?!

Merchandise - Should we sell stuff?  Shirts, cards, chip set, card protectors?  How deep should the range be?  High quality or cheap?  Would you buy high resolution pictures of yourself at events, branded with the event name, APAT logo and in an APAT sleeve?
Absolutely!  Shirts, Protectors, Hats all things people can wear when playing other tournaments, so brand awareness in the poker environment can only be a good thing.  Personally I wouldn"t buy the photos.

Just my thoughts.

KarmaDope:
I"d like to point out to Wax that the wooden spoon idea for first out was implemented by JAPAT in Vegas 2011. Paul Gildea was the unlucky "winner"!

Waz1892:

--- Quote from: sharplea on February 15, 2013, 10:53:55 AM ---
I"d like to point out to Wax that the wooden spoon idea for first out was implemented by JAPAT in Vegas 2011. Paul Gildea was the unlucky "winner"!

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I"ve been called some stuff before -  :P

No copyright infringements were intended.  :)

Paulie_D:

--- Quote from: suzanne on February 15, 2013, 00:19:58 AM ---
Have I mentioned that there has never been a game in the South West?  ;D

Bristol please x

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Yeah...cos Wales isn"t in the SW.

Bristol / Wales all the same innit?  ;D

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