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Season Seven Seat Reservation
Jon MW:
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--- Quote from: Des on June 02, 2013, 13:09:48 PM ---
It seems to me that while everyone is beginning to understand our wish to keep the events on sale for as long as possible, and our wish to cut down on the administration and to add a light commitment factor; player concern surrounds the need to pay an extra £5.
Has anyone considered that being able to book an event several months in advance would enable you to make a far greater saving in advance hotel and travel costs?
Now I appreciate a fiver is an additional cost for everyone, but that"s the cost of a sandwich or the Sunday newspapers or the booking fee to many shows or sporting events. We have to rank equal to at least one of those experiences in your lives surely? I"m beginning to think not and that saddens me.
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Perhaps yes for the rank and file APAT member..... but I still see it as a turn-off for the potential new members.
When I"m playing APAT events, I often have locals asking me what it"s about, and I do my best to give the hard sell. I always direct them to apat.com and the forum. If they arrive there looking for the next stop on the tour and are invited to pay an additional fiver on top of their 10% reg fee, I suspect that would be an immediate turn-off for many - they would simply draw comparison to their local tourney where they don"t have to spend extra. OK they don"t need to reserve a seat and can take their chances on availability, however with the thought in their head already, the turn-off will be out there....
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You think they would be accepting of the transport and accomodation fees required to travel and play in a £75 event - as we all are, but not the £5 to book their seat in advance? Really Steve? ???
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Even ignoring the local players, the simple answer is - no.
As has already been said, players will see it as an additional reg fee and it will make it "too expensive".
I"m guessing that the most likely outcome is that APAT regulars who are definitely playing will pay the fee. This will leave spare capacity for locals but reduce overall demand.
What about being able to pay a larger deposit up until 2 weeks beforehand followed by some kind of looser reservation system?
Zozzy:
Are there any players that are currently against the £5 fee idea, be in favour of a one-off payment at the beginning of the Season of say £10-£12 to guarantee a seat for every leg of that Season?
The "buy now" button can still be in place for those that choose to book on a leg by leg basis.
Don"t forget there is always the option to not reserve a seat at all, and just turn up on the day to play, this will incur no fees at all.
This would make three options, with the regular Apat multi Leg players getting a good deal paying up front (like a football supporter"s Season Ticket)
I suppose a drawback to this system would be that some season ticket holders would have some venues that they have no intention of playing at. They would have to inform Apat in advance of their non attendance.
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: Des on June 02, 2013, 13:09:48 PM ---
Now I appreciate a fiver is an additional cost for everyone, but that"s the cost of a sandwich or the Sunday newspapers or the booking fee to many shows or sporting events. We have to rank equal to at least one of those experiences in your lives surely? I"m beginning to think not and that saddens me.
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Des, you aren"t comparing like for like here. The APAT "experience" doesn"t cost £5, like that of a sandwich. A fairer comparision would be asking if I would pay 50p in advance to ensure the sandwich of my choice was available when I got there.
No one here is saying the APAT experience is not good value, we all agree it is.
Mikeyboy9361:
Okay, there was a poor turn out for the APAT tournament at Wembley, how many of those no shows were none APAT regulars, I would hazard a guess that they were the majority. How many no shows do we get at regular APAT events, not many, and the players that pull out usually let Des, Leigh etc know they can"t make it, am I right?
So why not add the seat reservation cost into the buy in ( I am sure this has already been mentioned) but make it a sum that is chunky enough to raise funds for APAT if there is a no show, and enough to deter the "I can"t be bothered" no show. If some one cant make it and sells their seat on then no foul. I would make it £20 out of the buy in. Just my two pennorth.
PHIL_TC:
I was paying £6 a pint of Guinness at Wembley. Although I can see both sides of the argument. Personally I think people really need to get a grip on reality of what a fiver gets you in todays world x
Other things you can get for a fiver include :
"I can make your pet photo talk" :
http://www.fivesquids.co.uk/Fun-Bizarre/7065/make-your-pet-photo-talk
"I will get my lizard to write messages of your choice for £5"
http://www.fivesquids.co.uk/Fun-Bizarre/26036/get-my-lizard-to-write-messages-of-your-choice
"I will freak people out with my unusual eyes for £5"
http://www.fivesquids.co.uk/Fun-Bizarre/23323/freak-people-out-with-my-unusual-eyes
An optional fiver to secure a seat OR watching someone with wonky eyes. No brainer x
--- Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on June 03, 2013, 09:12:18 AM ---
I would make it £20 out of the buy in. Just my two pennorth.
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Agree with Mikey x
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