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Live spot v Rodders from Coventry
Fatcatstu:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on July 01, 2013, 23:29:17 PM ---
Also just to tackle those saying let"s shove.
You"re making this a really easy decision for your opponent here as I assume you just 3 bet your strong value hands (AA-QQ, AK) so when you jam essentially you"re turning your hand face up of sorts (ie it"s prob AK or a medium pair)
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All of this.
duke3016:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on July 01, 2013, 23:29:17 PM ---
Also just to tackle those saying let"s shove.
You"re making this a really easy decision for your opponent here as I assume you just 3 bet your strong value hands (AA-QQ, AK) so when you jam essentially you"re turning your hand face up of sorts (ie it"s prob AK or a medium pair)
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It might be only me advocating a shove, but am I not reversing that thought and making my opponent think the same way when his tournament is on the line, or am I just being silly. No real need to answer that........
George2Loose:
--- Quote from: duke3016 on July 01, 2013, 23:40:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: George2Loose on July 01, 2013, 23:29:17 PM ---
Also just to tackle those saying let"s shove.
You"re making this a really easy decision for your opponent here as I assume you just 3 bet your strong value hands (AA-QQ, AK) so when you jam essentially you"re turning your hand face up of sorts (ie it"s prob AK or a medium pair)
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It might be only me advocating a shove, but am I not reversing that thought and making my opponent think the same way when his tournament is on the line, or am I just being silly. No real need to answer that........
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Hey Ger- what would you do with Aces here?
AAroddersAA:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on July 01, 2013, 23:20:34 PM ---
People are really complicating this spot. It"s really not that tough imo.
We are calling 1bb out of a 30bb stack. Even if we are purely set mining, I"m happy to move on and play my 29bb stack and c/f my hand on a ton of flops even if sometimes we have the best hand.
3 bet folding is just bad. We don"t even have any blockers in our hand and despite Rodders calling this an easy spot for you to exploit by 4 betting light I really don"t see this happening. All we are doing is turning a hand with some reasonable value into a very expensive and costly bluff.
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Yeah this is a good point.
I do agree that flat calling with 77 is the best play, it is +EV and does not risk your tournament life.
Just don"t hate the 3-bet either as I can still see a case for it, and after looking at this thread can see a case for the shove which surprises me. I would make the 3-bet slightly bigger though. It gets loads of folds. I suppose it"s hard to argue against calling is still better though as even if my range is larger it is unlikely that the raise is making you more chips long term.
What do people do with TT here?
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: Zozzy on July 01, 2013, 22:40:21 PM ---
Wow! Snapper you have completely dissected my answer. Have I upset you? (with my "miss an opportunity" comment?) Or maybe you just generally disagree with my points of view on this hand?
Either way you have asked me to give a more detailed explanation and I will do my best, in my humble opinion.
It could be quite a long response lol :D
We don"t know each other but when I have ever read your posts previously on poker strategy I seem to remember that I generally agreed with your views and you know what you"re talking about, so I am surprised that you fundamentally disagree with my thoughts here.
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Sorry you took it that way Craig, I"m an anal focker and dissecting is what I do, god love me. ;D
I"m not upset at all, I simply responded to the points you made explaining why I disagree. This is how we learn and why posting on these threads is helpful to us, we put ourselves out there so as our opinions can be challenged, if you counter my opinions you challenge both our understanding, win win.
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