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TheSnapper:
is this a turbo structure?
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on July 24, 2013, 10:08:53 AM ---
OPR/Sharkscope shows he has played about 2500 sitngo"s on Pokerstars and that he is quite regular at the $2.50 180 games currently but does not rate him as that great of a player.
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That"s not the impression I get from his OPR, seems pretty decent to me. Villain has lots of 1-3 finishes and 11% for itm which suggests an aggro play for top spot style.
s4ooter:
--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on July 24, 2013, 10:08:53 AM ---
Morning Dann, don"t entirely agree with this post mate.
I agree that some people (some of the better regs for example) will have a wide range for doing this but not too many are doing this against a stack that can do them real damage.
I don"t really agree that there are a lot of people doing this with a 14% range, there are some but you need some info to suggest they are doing this before you can even consider it, we do not have that in this case, we do not even have him noted as a reg (and I would need more than that I THINK). 14% is something like:-
44+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KJo+,QJo
Against that range we are 50/50 (so that would be an easy call as pot odds are massive). The problem is I don"t think that too many players are really shoving this light. Normally when you call off they will show you a much narrower range of hands.
--- Quote from: s4ooter on July 22, 2013, 20:20:25 PM ---
Even a player with a jamming range of 10% (AA-88, AKo, AKs, AQo, AQs) you profit +t313 so its a call.
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This is not a 10% range (it"s about 5%) and it is just not profitable chip wise to call against this range. I have not run the numbers but we are not getting the near 2/1 that we need. Chip wise it is a big -EV call against this range.
10% is probably more like 77+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KJo+ we are 45% against this range this is very marginal chip EV wise and I might call though as it is just about +cEV and I am not yet at the stage where my tournament life is vital. This is pretty marginal and I would like to hear thoughts on it.
If his range is 88+ and AQ+ though we are only about 36% making it a cEV fold.
--- Quote from: s4ooter on July 22, 2013, 20:20:25 PM ---
Regs will call off very wide vs regs, but regs also know that weaker players (non-regs) play these like std MMTs and R/F too much. You find they open 14% of hands but only call a shove with 5-6%.
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Good point, but we just can"t assume this kind of thinking from a player we have two hands on?
OPR/Sharkscope shows he has played about 2500 sitngo"s on Pokerstars and that he is quite regular at the $2.50 180 games currently but does not rate him as that great of a player.
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From my experience ( i used to get coaching/backing in them a while back) good villians will shove extremely wide due to your perceived calling range and stack sizes.
If he doesnt have you tagged as a reg, then he will doing this very wide whereas if you are a known villian to him its very narrow.
In 2/180s, you need to be making adjustments all the time, my main question to you is why raise to 500 pre?? I was always told that once the blinds get to 50/100 and stack sizes are so shallow, to not "waste chips" and just minraise as a large % of the field are now shove/fold mode only?? I know in this instance its only 100 chips, but it makes a huge difference in these top heavy fields. And villians only have the same option (ie shove or fold) whether you 2x or 2.5x
Oh how i miss 2/180s
KarmaDope:
Dann - it is a minraise pre by Steve.
And please dont go back to them - makes my games harder :)
s4ooter:
--- Quote from: sharplea on July 24, 2013, 16:39:10 PM ---
Dann - it is a minraise pre by Steve.
And please dont go back to them - makes my games harder :)
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FML i cant even read properly....i was reading it via ICMizer...well discount all my calculations so far as i have inputted HH in wrong.
I am a f*cking hero!!! haha
I couldnt go back....no time for the 500 game sessions. Although i do miss 24tbling. Saying that, Without TableNinja it would be impossible
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