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Small 50 hand session recording, your thoughts.
AAroddersAA:
Brendan/Mike, been trying to compose a good response to this for a while.
Some interesting thoughts there. I will add to them.
Your 3-bet pure bluffing range needs to be based almost entirely on your opponent. I do see Brendans point about needing to regulate your 3-betting percentage. Rag Aces and Kings and card removal OOP seems sensible. I would base it a lot more on my opponent though. The card removal is a factor, my opponents PFR and 3-Bet stats are far more so. If I find somebody who is opening wide, more than 25% of hands ideally, if I can get positional stats that is even better. I would then look at how often they fold to 3-bets more than 80% is ideal. Now lets say this player is cut off to my button and I have two tight players behind me then I will consider this a very good 3-betting opportunity and take advantage of it a lot (regardless of cards, also I am not too worried about the players behind, people rarely cold 4-bet light). To regulate it I just don"t do it every time, I do keep doing it on a pretty regular basis until there is some kind of sign that he has made an adjustment, the amount of times they don"t is quite amazing. So I just rely on myself to be able to regulate the frequency of my 3-bets and try to keep my percentage below 15%. If it goes above this I am not likely to be 3-bet bluffing as often unless I see an excellent spot, kind of like the one in my example in which case I will let it go higher. We should not assume players will adjust until we see that they can. Even when they do adjust they often do it badly and start to call the 3-bets rather than raise them so we can still often win the pot post flop. In this case my bluff % will be higher than my value bet percentage as I can get away with it.
I am not going to be worrying about if my hand is ahead of my opponents range either. I am just going to think about his calling range and 4-betting range. It rarely matters if you have A2s or 72os (other than the card removal) in that spot, you are bluffing and if you get 4-bet or called you are likely to be well behind. Sometimes the better hand can actually get you into more trouble but you should be able to play the streets well enough to avoid this but none of us are perfect players.
Hope this makes sense as it is quite hard to describe how I personally do this, I suppose I am sort of just saying I make sure I don"t 3-bet too much but that does not sound like a very good explanation.
AAroddersAA:
OK, here is a new one of just one table not Zoom, it is longer though, about 50 minutes. I did post one in my thread but it did not come out that well as far as quality went. This one is a bit better though. It"s probably not the best session I have ever played in terms of the standard of poker but that might help create a better strategy discussion. Feel free to throw some comments in. Where am I not playing an optimal strategy, where am I not getting enough value and where am I doing OK?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42FwdX4FAGo[/youtube]
TheSnapper:
A few quick points before I hit the nest.
I suggest your notes may reread easier/quicker if you format as...
villain 3x btn, we 3b to 11x in sb and fold to 30x 4b
not a biggie but worth a try.
Don"t 3b bluff a 6% pfr.
3b sizing to 11x is fine oop but you can consider 8.5x to 9.5x when in position.
Table select, no fish at your table and when 2 of 6 players are sat out, time to find a better table.
You never once mentioned fold to cb tendencies of opponents. This is critical in choosing whether to cb and in choosing how wide we can isolate limpers. Since most of our action versus fish will be when they limp call, we can iso raise wider versus those that fold to cb"s too often and vice versa.
Finally, though I know you were deliberately playing too many hands, just a mention of a hard learnt lesson.
When we play too many hands we are hugely likely to be in the pot when someone has a monster, also, we get in so much action that we get the adrenaline flowing, it can be very subtle and often creep up on us unnoticed but we end up fighting bravely for pots well beyond where logic based thinking would allow.
Fair play for the courage to put this up, I don"t think I"d have the balls for it :-[
Sillbags:
--- Quote from: TheSnapper on September 25, 2013, 03:27:29 AM ---
A few quick points before I hit the nest.
I suggest your notes may reread easier/quicker if you format as...
villain 3x btn, we 3b to 11x in sb and fold to 30x 4b
not a biggie but worth a try.
Don"t 3b bluff a 6% pfr.
3b sizing to 11x is fine oop but you can consider 8.5x to 9.5x when in position.
Table select, no fish at your table and when 2 of 6 players are sat out, time to find a better table.
You never once mentioned fold to cb tendencies of opponents. This is critical in choosing whether to cb and in choosing how wide we can isolate limpers. Since most of our action versus fish will be when they limp call, we can iso raise wider versus those that fold to cb"s too often and vice versa.
Finally, though I know you were deliberately playing too many hands, just a mention of a hard learnt lesson.
When we play too many hands we are hugely likely to be in the pot when someone has a monster, also, we get in so much action that we get the adrenaline flowing, it can be very subtle and often creep up on us unnoticed but we end up fighting bravely for pots well beyond where logic based thinking would allow.
Fair play for the courage to put this up, I don"t think I"d have the balls for it :-[
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Haven"t watched the vid yet, but some very good points here Brendan.
I wouldn"t mind posting one of these myself Rodders, what recording software and equipment are you using?
hi_am_chris:
Camtasia is pretty good
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