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Tricky turn spot, or is it ?

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Erimus:
Final table of $6k5 gteed, just reviewed, I marked in game to review, interested in what people would do on the turn.
I think i am deep enough to call not just to set mine,dont want to 4 bet fold, happy to take the flop even oop.

Villain stats h:250,vp:28 pf:25 ft3b:50, not been getting out of line.

Full Tilt Poker Game #33579831902: $6,500 Guarantee (261801209), Table 25 - NL Hold'em - 5000/10000 Ante 1000 - 20:20:38 WET - 2013/12/01 [15:20:38 ET - 2013/12/01]

Seat 2: Credo7 (312,928)       (31bigs) (hj)
Seat 3: -mash-x (197,396)
Seat 4: ChasingWraps (390,294) (39bigs) (button)
Seat 5: UHBigTex (243,296)
Seat 6: luckyron1 (326,086)
Credo7 antes 1,000
-mash-x antes 1,000
ChasingWraps antes 1,000
UHBigTex antes 1,000
luckyron1 antes 1,000
UHBigTex posts the small blind of 5,000
luckyron1 posts the big blind of 10,000
The button is in seat #4
***
HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Credo7 [8c 8h]
Credo7 raises to 20,000
-mash-x folds
ChasingWraps has 15 seconds left to act
ChasingWraps raises to 41,310
UHBigTex folds
luckyron1 folds
Credo7 calls 21,310
*** FLOP *** [2h 3s Td]
Credo7 checks
ChasingWraps has 15 seconds left to act
ChasingWraps bets 31,955
Credo7 raises to 75,000
ChasingWraps has 15 seconds left to act
ChasingWraps calls 43,045
*** TURN *** [2h 3s Td] [7h] (Total Pot: 252,620, 2 Players)
Credo7 checks
ChasingWraps has 15 seconds left to act
ChasingWraps bets 55,544
Credo7 has 15 seconds left to act

Easy fold, call again or give up.

mporter123:
Hate the flop play so much. He will fold all his air and continue with hands that beat us, we must be behind now so its definitely a fold. I can"t see how villain has any bluffs with this line..

I get that were scared of a queen, King, Ace on the turn but we have to just check call the flop.

Saying that I am certain that you are not deep enough to call pre. Given positions, stacks and stats, seems like an absolutely perfect spot to 4bet jam to me. Would struggle to know what to do if we had 35-40bigs though.

Erimus:
His 3 bet pre indicates strength to me here basically clicking it back, don"t think he is doing it with 77 and below so got to be aware I am all already beaten so 99+ definitely in his range, think he may flat 99, 1010 even Jacks, table has been pretty tight, if he has Ak, Aq, think he 3 bets more pre.

After he leads my check, I am not scared of an over card the reason I reraise is to see if my initial thoughts are correct ie an over pair probably QQ+, hard for AK, AQ to continue because I am showing strength, I know some people won"t fold Ak, AQ in this spot but I didn"t think in this situation he is chasing the over card.

Perhaps I should flat his raise but I still wouldn"t know where I was, he did give me a free card to hit my set which I obviously didn"t.

At the start of the hand I had 31 bigs and have only lost 6 bigs in this hand, 25 bigs imo is more than enough to cause damage in a better spot if I decided not to jam.

4 bet jamming with 88 in this spot was not an option, flipping at best, more than likely a 4/1 to dog.

deanp27:
5 handed vs an aggro opponent i"d be tempted to pile this pre

deanp27:
Raising flop seems worst option but all this highlights why peeling 3bets with medium hands OOP and no betting lead can be troublesome.

Probably call flop/give up after that or call down depending on history.

The guy is playing 28/25 over a decent-ish sample (you don"t put his 3bet stat in, his fold to 3bet stat is less important) so its hard to think he isn"t capable of 3bet bluffing from the button 5 handed when he is the big stack. As said above I put this in pre.

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