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playing a set out of position.

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TopPair2Pair:
nearly but not quite! I"m related to the geeky internet player, lol!

LongshanksED:
waiting with baited breath

did you win or did the old boy suck out with a flush draw?

kinboshi:
Hehe.  Going to wait for a few more opinions before I reveal what I was thinking, and how the hand played out.

noble1:
nice post Kinboshi

ok as played and with your reads

loose guy - could of rr a flush draw AXc KXc ,top pair KQo KJo KTo and seems he is loose i"d add K9 in there 99 is a possibility but i"d expect a bigger raise to deter flush draws and isolate you [KK could be in range but doubtful]

Big blind - if he is good? then check smooth calling 99 after you have lead out and seen a rr is spewy so i"d discount that from his range and KK,if he is any good he wouldnt just call a flush draw oop AXc odds are only 1.85 so AKc KQc KJc is the type of hand i"d expect to see here,and he smoothed to see how you react due to your lead

you have 10,300 @ 75/150 so you have fold equity but due to the action and reads we have 2 choices.
1 call
2 raise

utg+1 has 3500 left behind and has basically committed himself having put in 1/2 his stack
BB internet whizz kid has 7000 behind

if we call and a club comes we will have 7300 chips left and plenty of play left,if no club comes i dare say utg+1 will shove in rest of his stack anyhows but will we extract any more chips from BB ?
if we re-raise we will definitely have utg+1 coming in and i"d say about 35% chance that the BB will. 

with it being so early and deep i"m torn between the safe option and re-raising.

re-raising here with 2 intrested parties @ this level to me is just a little bit to early to gamble with a %50 edge on 2 villians.
So if i was you Kinboshi i"d call and re-evaluate on the turn to see the BB action,if there is a club and he leads out it is a easy fold,likewise if no club and he leads out then i"d have to put 99 in his range now and i"d make a reluctant fold.If he checks the turn if a club comes or not i would lead to isolate utg+1 and expect BB to fold if we ship in our stack and if utg+1 does have the flush we have the odds to pair the board for a boat.

intresting situation , i luv it  ;D


kinboshi:
Ok - I"m actually off out now (down to London Village to see New Model Army at The Astoria ;D), but will be back on tomorrow to carry on the discussion from my point of view. 

Some great responses though.

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